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Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« on: March 07, 2012, 12:42:52 PM »
My guitar tech just had somebody bring in a brand new neck, that's never been used, and just look at the twist in this. It's absolutely disgusting.


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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2012, 01:17:46 PM »
I believe I read that Ken Parker said in an interview that maple is goo. At least this neck would be a prime example of that. How awful.

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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2012, 01:37:34 PM »
yes that happens - pain in the ass when it does!
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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2012, 02:14:36 PM »
Is it actual possible to fix?

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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2012, 02:52:09 PM »
I also remember from a very old interview with the Hoyer guitar company that it happened there too on occasion.

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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2012, 05:29:15 PM »
That is bad!  :o

I wouldn't be surprised if some of my "collection" of Warmoth necks have twisted from lying around so long.

I believe it's possible to use some kind of heat treatment (no, not "baked maple"!) to straighten them, but that could be wrong.  :?

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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2012, 12:48:20 AM »
I saw people at Warmoth saying that Maple is very unstable if not hard finish, moves with moisture changes a lot...

Not sure if this neck is finished or raw, can be a satin finish...

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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 08:49:12 AM »
I have read that maple is sensitive to humidity and should always be laquered. A clear plus for the tropical woods like ebony, rosewood and pau ferro - they are allegedly insensitive to humidity.

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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2012, 12:41:50 PM »
does adding a hardwood skunk stripe go some way to preventing this or is that for something else?

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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 12:51:40 PM »
does adding a hardwood skunk stripe go some way to preventing this or is that for something else?

The skunk stripe is just for covering the truss rod channel on one piece necks (although Fender now use it on all their American Standard necks, maple or rosewood).

Since it's quite shallow and doesn't run the full length or depth of the neck, I'd guess it makes very little difference, if any, to stability.

In fact the skunk stripe often seems to "pop out" slightly.  I've had lots of Fenders where there's a tiny crack in the finish somewhere along the skunk stripe - usually right at the rounded end of the stripe near the headstock.


(Edit: this is different from the multi-laminate necks used by many manufacturers - BC Rich, Ibanez, Hamer, Feline, Wez V etc  :) - where the neck's made of three or more pieces, maybe of the same wood or maybe different woods, running the full length of the neck.  That definitely does add stiffness and stability. )
« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 12:56:40 PM by Philly Q »
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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2012, 03:13:32 PM »
Well explained, Philly, thanks!

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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2012, 03:23:15 PM »
Cheers Philly. exactly what I wanted to know

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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2012, 05:41:11 PM »
This is why we prefer to use quarter-sawn wood where the grain is as vertical as possible.
When we make tri-laminate necks it lets us take timber that is slab sawn and turn it around so it is quartersawn



See how the grain runs almost vertical

Here is the process we use for some necks


Cut out the 4 pieces from a thick-ish piece of timber that viewed from it's end would be slab sawn when laid flat



Once cut out you can see that the grain is vertical in the pieces we have cut



These are wide enough to be slit into 2 pieces each.



we select which ones will work best together for balance of stresses



Time to glue them together
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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2012, 05:30:33 PM »
I was going to say- My Feline has an uncoated maple neck and it is straight as a rod and gorgeous to play on!
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Re: Worst Twisted Guitar Neck I've ever seen!
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2012, 05:47:19 PM »
I was going to say- My Feline has an uncoated maple neck and it is straight as a rod and gorgeous to play on!

is it a three piece in the manner Jonathan describes above?

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