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dave_mc

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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2012, 11:56:26 AM »
very nice

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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2012, 12:17:30 PM »
i've tried one of these before and it was a 'precise' feeling instrument, and had great tone! i think this is a good score :)

if it was me, i'd change some of the plastics to black for that 70s feel. maybe the knobs and pickup covers.

love the ash.
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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2012, 12:26:53 PM »
if it was me, i'd change some of the plastics to black for that 70s feel. maybe the knobs and pickup covers.

 :o  Proceed with caution - it's not easy getting the covers off Lace Sensors.  I tried a couple of times and gave up.

I'd rather keep the white bits but get a black scratchplate.
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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2012, 12:31:09 PM »
if it was me, i'd change some of the plastics to black for that 70s feel. maybe the knobs and pickup covers.

 :o  Proceed with caution - it's not easy getting the covers off Lace Sensors.  I tried a couple of times and gave up.

I'd rather keep the white bits but get a black scratchplate.

In that case I agree with Philly ;)
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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2012, 12:51:16 PM »
good call guys.
I'm going to get Jon at feline to hook me up with some black plates. maybe a couple, even those I won't use them all immediately.

black SSS, HS, HH i reckon.
I probably wouldn't move any of the wiring on the orginal plate.

yo. I just plugged this guitar into the VHT ish amp I built for myself. That Red Lace Sensor sounds cool! Not lacking balls at all in the slightest! Defo not a tone a would associate with single coil though. (not saying single coils lack balls, but I can see why if you wanted a single coil sound, you probably wouldn't want a red lace)

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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2012, 01:03:18 PM »
yo. I just plugged this guitar into the VHT ish amp I built for myself. That Red Lace Sensor sounds cool! Not lacking balls at all in the slightest! Defo not a tone a would associate with single coil though. (not saying single coils lack balls, but I can see why if you wanted a single coil sound, you probably wouldn't want a red lace)

The red lace sensor was supposed to give more of a hot humbucker sound.  The blue was supposed to be like a vintage humbucker, the silver a "Fat Strat" and the gold a vintage Strat.

My Strat Plus Deluxe was quite an early model, it came with a blue in the bridge and two silvers (and it had Sperzel tuners rather than Schallers).  I swapped to the red/silver/blue setup but if I remember right I didn't like it as much as the blue/silver/silver.

I wish I still had that guitar!  :lol:
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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2012, 02:00:50 PM »
I like it!  Do you know what year it is?  I'm guessing early '90s since it has the satin-finished tuners.

Never mind the purists, I had an '89 Strat Plus Deluxe which was the best (Fender) Strat I've ever owned.  And the only one I really regret selling.

This is an 89'er as well according to the serial number
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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2012, 02:02:40 PM »
It looks a cool guitar.  Not sure on Lace Sensors (I've had a few of them because I used to know Don & Jeff Lace back in the 90's).  I've always preferred more traditional Strat pickups.
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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2012, 02:25:41 PM »
I like it!  Do you know what year it is?  I'm guessing early '90s since it has the satin-finished tuners.

Never mind the purists, I had an '89 Strat Plus Deluxe which was the best (Fender) Strat I've ever owned.  And the only one I really regret selling.

This is an 89'er as well according to the serial number

Oh, maybe mine was an '88 then - I certainly bought it in '89.
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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2012, 04:38:23 PM »
I've always really liked these.. I don't like natural and would want a colour though.

By getting a natural one you get better choice of wood
Some of the coloured ones have a veneer hiding many pieces of wood under the colour.
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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2012, 05:10:32 PM »
I've always really liked these.. I don't like natural and would want a colour though.

By getting a natural one you get better choice of wood
Some of the coloured ones have a veneer hiding many pieces of wood under the colour.

That's true, but I think it was happening more towards the tail end of the '90s.

The first few years of the American Standards from '87 to the mid '90s were really good, then a few years later I read an interview with one of the bosses of Fender saying they were by then using up to 5 pieces, veneered to hide the joins.  And sometimes it was even poplar rather than alder.

I think at that point they must have worried about their reputation starting to decline again, because in 2000 they made a big thing of re-launching the American Standards as the American Series, with inprovements like rolled fingerboard edges, more accurate headstock shape, more pronounced body contouring.... and non-veneered two or three piece bodies.
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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2012, 09:00:15 PM »
great guitars.the bridges are great and very comfortable , i like the 2 point trem system.i was never a fan of the hipshot trem thing. the woods of this era where the best on offer from fender. red & blue lace sensors have there own charm both being more humbuckery than the golds.
the nut sucks though, even with wd 40 it won't stay in tune with trem work but is fine if you don't use your trem. it's
very easily converted to the later roller nut (fender lsr)with a plastic adapter, feline changed mine for not much.the roller nuts(lsr) are great, the best fender system for staying in tune tremming.
i've had 3 of this era, my current IT'd one being the latest, it's as good as any strat i've played.
change the nut and you've got a keeper.

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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2012, 09:42:58 PM »
Noice, love it! makes me think of this

http://www.schecter.co.jp/s/sst.html

I like old strats but to be honest, most of the great guitars we have these days are down to hot rodded strats, that ones not even a million miles away from being classic, just a few choice enhancing mods. Those wilkinson roller nuts are supposed to be excellent, think fender stopped using them in 89 or 90

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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2012, 10:38:02 PM »
I think the nut does stick a bit. I strung it properly and the trem can be abused quite a bit, but its noticeable when tuning. The tremsetter has never been toached, so I need to address that. I'm about to play a gig with the amp I built myself... Worry!

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Re: Back up all you strat purists
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2012, 02:14:28 AM »
I found the nut used to occasionally rattle/buzz very loudly, usually on the high E string.  Only intermittently, but it was a bit alarming when you weren't expecting it.

It seemed to be inherent in the design, because I fitted those Wilkinson nuts to two other guitars and they all buzzed.
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