Does the C-Pig cut it?

[ericsabbath]

Yes i think everything is relative to everything else; BUT if a pickup is designed to accentuate low frequencies for example then some eqing will probably be needed when in a band situation- not always, but most probably. At the end of the day the guitar lives in the mid frequency range. This of course is only my opinion.

that would only be a problem if we were playing straight to a eq-less power amp  :D

[witeter]

Yeah defo; just trying to add to the discussion,etc-have read about players experiences for example regarding the warpig that even with bass on 0 it was hard to get rid of the overwhelming bassiness of the pickup. Of course this depends on the amp, and in no way im saying that its useless for live, but for my uses anyways and in the band i play in it just wouldnt work :-)

[Toe-Knee]

Don't get me wrong, but I like to be heard live, so that's an important thing for me. I should also mention that I'm tuned to E-Flat, so the "low tuning bonus" the AM has isn't important to me.

Cheers

I found that the AM sounded best in Eb. I couldn't stand it in lower tunings at all it sounded too weak imho.

Really? Periphery's last record was recorded with Aftermath equipped guitars for all rhythm if i'm not mistaken, they play on Drop G# on 7 strings and had some stuff on a standard tuned 8 string, probably with aftermaths as well.

THis is just my opinion. And also you have to remember they were recorded using a modeller. Modellers sound extremely different to amps in how they handle the frequencies. And it is also mixed to a high standard too.

I personally found it too thin and abrasive in lower tunings.

[Toe-Knee]

Also take that with a pinch of salt as i also hate V30s as i find them abrasive also but most people love them.

[ericsabbath]

saying a pickup doesn't cut is only valid when comparing to another pickup in the same guitar, in the exact same conditions
one must always try to get the best sound for whatever he has in hands
I could say a holy diver doesn't cut in a Gibson SG, but that's compared to the same pickup my les paul, or another proper pickup in the same SG, in the same rig and same settings
of course I could make it cut in the band by adjusting the settings, pedals or whatever is needed to make that happen

[EffigyForgotten]

Also take that with a pinch of salt as i also hate V30s as i find them abrasive also but most people love them.

From your description I would probably hate the aftermath, now that I listen to BKP's shootouts, the Aftermath always sounds to thin for the kinda sound I go for? What would an equally tight but fuller aftermath with more grind that can still work in a mahogany guitar?

[darkbluemurder]

Also take that with a pinch of salt as i also hate V30s as i find them abrasive also but most people love them.

From your description I would probably hate the aftermath, now that I listen to BKP's shootouts, the Aftermath always sounds to thin for the kinda sound I go for? What would an equally tight but fuller aftermath with more grind that can still work in a mahogany guitar?

Probably the Painkiller.

Cheers Stephan

[Toe-Knee]

Also take that with a pinch of salt as i also hate V30s as i find them abrasive also but most people love them.

From your description I would probably hate the aftermath, now that I listen to BKP's shootouts, the Aftermath always sounds to thin for the kinda sound I go for? What would an equally tight but fuller aftermath with more grind that can still work in a mahogany guitar?

Probably the Painkiller.

Cheers Stephan

I agree entirely with this. Or the miracle man. It's not quite as tight but it's far grindier and more aggressive sounding than both sets of aftermaths I've had across all six of my guitars.

[Sarkasis]

I found that the AM sounded best in Eb. I couldn't stand it in lower tunings at all it sounded too weak imho.

My 8 string baritone with a low 80 gauge string and an Aftermath bridge through a Dual Rectifier model would disagree.

...Also the Aftermath for some reason has the reputation of being the Periphery pickup - those guys have approximately 8 billion guitars and they all seem to have different pickups in them. In some ways their first album seemed to sound more like the Aftermath to my ears, and that album was recorded before the pickup was released.

On the other hand the Aftermath will tend to put you in the middle of that kind of sound, so while it's not necessarily what they use all the time it does naturally sound like them. But it depends on your amp.

[EffigyForgotten]

I found that the AM sounded best in Eb. I couldn't stand it in lower tunings at all it sounded too weak imho.

My 8 string baritone with a low 80 gauge string and an Aftermath bridge through a Dual Rectifier model would disagree.

...Also the Aftermath for some reason has the reputation of being the Periphery pickup - those guys have approximately 8 billion guitars and they all seem to have different pickups in them. In some ways their first album seemed to sound more like the Aftermath to my ears, and that album was recorded before the pickup was released.

On the other hand the Aftermath will tend to put you in the middle of that kind of sound, so while it's not necessarily what they use all the time it does naturally sound like them. But it depends on your amp.

All of their guitars (recording and live) have either aftermaths or blackhawks currently.

[Sarkasis]

That's interesting. (I wonder what they did with all those pickups...) I do remember Misha saying some time back that he was getting more interested in PAF-type pickups, never heard what came of that.

I guess it still goes to show that you can get as much of the Periphery tone as Periphery does with Rebel Yells, Nailbombs, Holydivers or even Warpigs (like they did) so long as you're playing through an Engl or Diezel (and especially if you're modelling it with an AxeFX).