strat with Slowhand + Trilogy

[ZECK]

i have a new AM Std Deluxe and never got used to the N3 noiseless pups.

for my HH strat i put a RY neck & NB bridge and fell in love with BKP pickups so i thought i'd venture into BK single coils for this new strat.

i like the Slowhand mid's ability more than what the IT's produce so my question is would Slowhand's in neck & mid and a Trilogy in bridge be complimentary?

[Telerocker]

Not quite, referring to the fourth position quack. If that is not important for you, it will be a nice stratset with a more modern sounding bridge and vintageflavoured, yet thicker sounding middle- and neckpickup. Balance should not be a problem. What styles you want to play with it?

[darkbluemurder]

Balance should not be a problem.

I agree, since the string movement at the bridge is shallower so a stronger bridge pickup may work well. It is indeed the question whether the #4 position produces a sound that you like. Of course if you don't use that position much it is no issue.

There is a very detailed review on the Trilogy Suite by forum member slartibartfarst42, even though he did not use it in the bridge position of his guitar.

Cheers Stephan

[gwEm]

you can go for a set of three slowhands, with a baseplate on the bridge. Very meaty set, I have one :)

[BigB]

you can go for a set of three slowhands, with a baseplate on the bridge. Very meaty set, I have one :)

I've had the SH mid+neck / TS bridge combo and unless you really really want the TS bridge for hi-gain I think you'd be better with gwEm's suggestion, as the SH and TS tones are very different.

[ZECK]

Not quite, referring to the fourth position quack. If that is not important for you, it will be a nice stratset with a more modern sounding bridge and vintageflavoured, yet thicker sounding middle- and neckpickup. Balance should not be a problem. What styles you want to play with it?

contemporary blues/rock, starting a fusion class next month,

[ZECK]

you can go for a set of three slowhands, with a baseplate on the bridge. Very meaty set, I have one :)

i did entertain the idea of the three-set, though i didn't think of the baseplate. i'm not versed in the baseplate as to what it can offer, sorry to say.

[ZECK]

Balance should not be a problem.

I agree, since the string movement at the bridge is shallower so a stronger bridge pickup may work well. It is indeed the question whether the #4 position produces a sound that you like. Of course if you don't use that position much it is no issue.

There is a very detailed review on the Trilogy Suite by forum member slartibartfarst42, even though he did not use it in the bridge position of his guitar.

Cheers Stephan

you and telerocker mention the 4th pos. i typically do not use it. N, N+M, B, most often. the wiring setup on this deluxe has the S1 vol switch. not sure how the Slowhands + Trilogy will work with that but my ears are really liking the Slowhands and a bridge Trilogy.

though i will consider more a 3-set Slowhand with that bridgeplate. just not sure that bridgeplate will deliver what my ears are hearing from the Trilogy.

[Kiichi]

i did entertain the idea of the three-set, though i didn't think of the baseplate. i'm not versed in the baseplate as to what it can offer, sorry to say.

http://youtu.be/2_lVIWPc38E
If you have not seen it yet this can shed some light on baseplates. Love these BKP tutorials.

[Telerocker]

Not quite, referring to the fourth position quack. If that is not important for you, it will be a nice stratset with a more modern sounding bridge and vintageflavoured, yet thicker sounding middle- and neckpickup. Balance should not be a problem. What styles you want to play with it?

contemporary blues/rock, starting a fusion class next month,

In that case you will be happy three Slowhands, with a baseplate for the bridge.
Btw, I had the S1-switch on my American Series HSS-strat. I had it removed and rewired to a normal five-way switch, with autosplit on het fourth position. I found the S1-system took away some juice, but it could be related to the stockpickups. I didn't try BKP's with the S1-switch.

[ZECK]

i did entertain the idea of the three-set, though i didn't think of the baseplate. i'm not versed in the baseplate as to what it can offer, sorry to say.

http://youtu.be/2_lVIWPc38E
If you have not seen it yet this can shed some light on baseplates. Love these BKP tutorials.

well, i'z bez educated, that was enlightening. my ears sure noticed a difference.  thanks for the link

[ZECK]

Not quite, referring to the fourth position quack. If that is not important for you, it will be a nice stratset with a more modern sounding bridge and vintageflavoured, yet thicker sounding middle- and neckpickup. Balance should not be a problem. What styles you want to play with it?

contemporary blues/rock, starting a fusion class next month,

In that case you will be happy three Slowhands, with a baseplate for the bridge.
Btw, I had the S1-switch on my American Series HSS-strat. I had it removed and rewired to a normal five-way switch, with autosplit on het fourth position. I found the S1-system took away some juice, but it could be related to the stockpickups. I didn't try BKP's with the S1-switch.

i noticed  a difference in that video between baseplate and non-baseplate. not sure now of the a Trilogy bridge trumps that, i'll listen to the clips again.

appreciate your insight,

[BigB]

not sure how the Slowhands + Trilogy will work with that but my ears are really liking the Slowhands and a bridge Trilogy.

though i will consider more a 3-set Slowhand with that bridgeplate. just not sure that bridgeplate will deliver what my ears are hearing from the Trilogy.

The SH and TS are quite different pups and I really doubt a bridgeplate will turn the SH into a TS. Slowhands are beefy single-coils with a hint of a P90 tone (warmer and less scooped than more traditional Strat pups) but still on the vintage side. The TS (bridge at least) definitly has a way more modern voice and vibe (and more output FWIW). I was at first very pleased with this mixed set and the wide array of tones I could get of it, but while I liked both pups I finally found out I would have prefered a more consistent voicing across all three positions.

So, if you're ok with the voicing difference then well, go for it - at worst you'll have a few days to find out if it works for you (if you order them directly from BKP at least).

My 2 cents...

[ZECK]

not sure how the Slowhands + Trilogy will work with that but my ears are really liking the Slowhands and a bridge Trilogy.

though i will consider more a 3-set Slowhand with that bridgeplate. just not sure that bridgeplate will deliver what my ears are hearing from the Trilogy.

The SH and TS are quite different pups and I really doubt a bridgeplate will turn the SH into a TS. Slowhands are beefy single-coils with a hint of a P90 tone (warmer and less scooped than more traditional Strat pups) but still on the vintage side. The TS (bridge at least) definitly has a way more modern voice and vibe (and more output FWIW). I was at first very pleased with this mixed set and the wide array of tones I could get of it, but while I liked both pups I finally found out I would have prefered a more consistent voicing across all three positions.

So, if you're ok with the voicing difference then well, go for it - at worst you'll have a few days to find out if it works for you (if you order them directly from BKP at least).

My 2 cents...

i haven't purchased yet due mainly to the voicing diff decision. ;-) as you brought up.

did you end up getting a 3-set of SH or TS?

what about a 12.5 Ohm neck TS and use in bridge with a neck&mid TS?

with all the input from this thread and 'my ears' leaning towards 3-set SH with bridgeplate.

[ZECK]

Balance should not be a problem.

I agree, since the string movement at the bridge is shallower so a stronger bridge pickup may work well. It is indeed the question whether the #4 position produces a sound that you like. Of course if you don't use that position much it is no issue.

There is a very detailed review on the Trilogy Suite by forum member slartibartfarst42, even though he did not use it in the bridge position of his guitar.

Cheers Stephan

that was a really insightful helpful review. i was surprized he found they didin't sing chords well.