So i got a painkiller yesterday

[Toe-Knee]

It's not really what i expected. It's a bit too much of eveything for my tastes.

 Too much saturation (this is coming from an EMG user) WAY too much low end and the highs are kinda fizzy. Kinda reminds me of a duncan invader.

I'll give it a few days and see if my opinion on it changes.

I was hoping for a classic metal kinda sound but so far all i've managed to pull from it is modern garbage :(

It looks like I may end up with a Miracle Man in my designated BKP guitar.

[Slartibartfarst42]

I've never tried a Painkiller but I've always imagined it as a lot brighter and thinner than an Invader due to lots of highs and high mids, while I find the Invader to be fat and dark with more lows and low mids. From the sound of it, you will much prefer the Miracle Man.

[Toe-Knee]

I've never tried a Painkiller but I've always imagined it as a lot brighter and thinner than an Invader due to lots of highs and high mids, while I find the Invader to be fat and dark with more lows and low mids. From the sound of it, you will much prefer the Miracle Man.

I've owned a miracle man well a few of them in the past and know i like them. I just took a chance on this really out of curiosity. I too figured it would be fairly bright and thin.

[darrenw5094]

Pickup height?

[Toe-Knee]

Pickup height?

I've messed with the height and pole pieces a fair bit. I'm going to keep on tinkering. As well as trying some different strings before giving up.

At first i was quite liking the sound before i switched to other guitars loaded with pickups from various other manufacturers and noticed how much it was lacking.

I think maybe it just isn't the right pickup for the guitar. I'll see how it works recording tomorow maybe as that is the primary use of this guitar anyway.

[JimmyMoorby]

Also the exact opposite of what I expected you to say actually!


Didnt you say have a soldano?  How does it sound through that out of curosity?  From what others have said id imagine that really would sound like well..... painkiller judas priest type tone.

Fizzy could never be a good sound though!

[ericsabbath]

the triple magnet configuration makes it quite loud and sensitive
try setting it very low and far from strings and then you try it a little higher
it shouldn't be too bassy in low string height setup
it helps taming the mids too, so it should sound less harsh

[braintheory]

What kind of guitar is the Painkiller in? 

You might also like the Lundgren M6.  It's a fantastic pickup.

[Toe-Knee]

I've got it a little more to my liking.

Here is a quick clip. Still not ideal but its better.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9807181/Recordings/Grind%20redux%20PK.mp3

and before where i still wasnt happy with a duncan distortion

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9807181/Recordings/Grind%20redux.mp3

[Toe-Knee]

Also the exact opposite of what I expected you to say actually!


Didnt you say have a soldano?  How does it sound through that out of curosity?  From what others have said id imagine that really would sound like well..... painkiller judas priest type tone.

Fizzy could never be a good sound though!

Clip added. I'm gonna restring it with some different strings at some point and try it in standard to see if i can capture those JP tones better.

What kind of guitar is the Painkiller in? 

You might also like the Lundgren M6.  It's a fantastic pickup.

Its a jackson DKMGT. MIJ Alder i believe with a maple neck/rosewood board.

the triple magnet configuration makes it quite loud and sensitive
try setting it very low and far from strings and then you try it a little higher
it shouldn't be too bassy in low string height setup
it helps taming the mids too, so it should sound less harsh

The clips are with the pickup about 1cm away from the strings

[Slartibartfarst42]

Due to the references to a Painkiller being a bit 'ice-picky' you see around the forum, I never would have thought of trying a Painkiller in that guitar. Having said that, your clip is sounding pretty good if you're after that hard, aggressive tone. The Miracle Man has more body to it for sure but it's also smoother and maybe that's not what you're after with this guitar.

[Toe-Knee]

Due to the references to a Painkiller being a bit 'ice-picky' you see around the forum, I never would have thought of trying a Painkiller in that guitar. Having said that, your clip is sounding pretty good if you're after that hard, aggressive tone. The Miracle Man has more body to it for sure but it's also smoother and maybe that's not what you're after with this guitar.

To be honest i only went with it as i got offered a trade for a set of pickups i wasn't using. Ideally i'm aiming for an exodus type tone from exhibit B Tim says the blackhawk will deliver. I know from past experience that the Aftermath can do very exodus like tones too so that may be the ticket.

With regards to the MM i have a lot of experience with it and i think it could possibly work for what i want in this guitar if i use an OD but i try to avoid that where possible as my amp can handle anything i throw at it without one usually.

[GuitarIv]

If I'm honest I really like those clips, and the one with the Painkiller more than the Duncan. I have experienced a huge low end with mine as well, but it's in a Jackson Fusion with a Mahogany body, Maple Neck and Rosewood Fretboard + the shorter 24.75 inch scale, so a rather dark guitar. How do you mean it sounds fizzy?

[Toe-Knee]

If I'm honest I really like those clips, and the one with the Painkiller more than the Duncan. I have experienced a huge low end with mine as well, but it's in a Jackson Fusion with a Mahogany body, Maple Neck and Rosewood Fretboard + the shorter 24.75 inch scale, so a rather dark guitar. How do you mean it sounds fizzy?

I  had to  lower  my presence  to 2  and treble  to 3  to get that tone.  with  the distortion I  had then both sound 7

[ericsabbath]

the c-bomb sounds more like modern exodus, although the aftermath and painkiller help with the scratchy picking

what amps are you using?