Best Thrash pickups...

[Kiichi]

By the same logic I think you could say (trying to push it to the extreme) realistic paintings are a poor imitation of photographs.

I view that the other way around. A photograph is a poor mans imitation of a fine painting. Anyone can take a photograph but only an extremly accomplished artist can create a work of art that is considered a fine painting. I know that many peoples opinion on this differ but that is all it is an opinion.

That is also why I added in realistic painting, one which tries to capture reality as it is, making the comparison a bit fairer. Of course there is much room of discussion here.

The point I was trying to make was that saying A is a poor imitation of B although B was developed later and is based on A is not too logical to me.
Horsecarriages are not poor imitations of steam engine cars and steam engine cars are not poor imitations of combustion engines. It does not work that way around.

Therefore to say the AM imitates the EMG tighness is to me unfair to say, as one is passive and one active.

[Sarkasis]

Aside from the wild analogies going around here, if you think an Aftermath is a poor imitation of an EMG simply because it's not one, then I guess your choice is to get an EMG.

I still can't see anyone getting an Aftermath wanting a tight pickup and coming away disappointed. These pickups all have their own characters and if you want tightness and the character of an EMG then congratulations, there are millions of them on the market so they're easy to get and your choice is clear. But if you want a dry, angry pickup with lots of mids and an abrasive crunch, then in that light an EMG is going to seem like a poor man's Aftermath.

It just seems like an arbitrary standard and it sounds like you haven't actually tried an Aftermath if you think an EMG is so obvious a comparison that you would rule it out for that reason alone.

[Toe-Knee]

Aside from the wild analogies going around here, if you think an Aftermath is a poor imitation of an EMG simply because it's not one, then I guess your choice is to get an EMG.

I still can't see anyone getting an Aftermath wanting a tight pickup and coming away disappointed. These pickups all have their own characters and if you want tightness and the character of an EMG then congratulations, there are millions of them on the market so they're easy to get and your choice is clear. But if you want a dry, angry pickup with lots of mids and an abrasive crunch, then in that light an EMG is going to seem like a poor man's Aftermath.

It just seems like an arbitrary standard and it sounds like you haven't actually tried an Aftermath if you think an EMG is so obvious a comparison that you would rule it out for that reason alone.

 I used the aftermath for year or so and have since had another set. I never said it was bad just for me it wasn't cutting the mustard so to speak.

I am actually thinking of getting another set now that I don't just have one guitar.

My main issue with it was that I found i needed to use an overdrive to get it as tight and cutting as an 81. Where the aftermath sounded great on recordings in a band setting it just didnt cut enough for me.

[JimmyMoorby]

Aside from the wild analogies going around here, if you think an Aftermath is a poor imitation of an EMG simply because it's not one, then I guess your choice is to get an EMG.

I still can't see anyone getting an Aftermath wanting a tight pickup and coming away disappointed. These pickups all have their own characters and if you want tightness and the character of an EMG then congratulations, there are millions of them on the market so they're easy to get and your choice is clear. But if you want a dry, angry pickup with lots of mids and an abrasive crunch, then in that light an EMG is going to seem like a poor man's Aftermath.

It just seems like an arbitrary standard and it sounds like you haven't actually tried an Aftermath if you think an EMG is so obvious a comparison that you would rule it out for that reason alone.

Its compressed and its mentions several times about the fast bass response almost as if its a/the main selling point.  I can get compression and tighter bass response from emg well so could any one but any way that's all im saying so to me MEEEEEEEE not you its a poor mans emg and emg's sound more alive they have more precense and theyre both blatantly aimed at metallers.  In fairness it was a tongue in cheek comment I didn't expect any one to get their knickers in a twist and take it so seriously so my sincerest apolgies if my comments offended your eyes in any way I don't intend to get into some sort of debate about this.

[Dave Sloven]

I was always a fan of Armoured Angel's sound.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGsZRYn338A

[Sarkasis]

Aside from the wild analogies going around here, if you think an Aftermath is a poor imitation of an EMG simply because it's not one, then I guess your choice is to get an EMG.

I still can't see anyone getting an Aftermath wanting a tight pickup and coming away disappointed. These pickups all have their own characters and if you want tightness and the character of an EMG then congratulations, there are millions of them on the market so they're easy to get and your choice is clear. But if you want a dry, angry pickup with lots of mids and an abrasive crunch, then in that light an EMG is going to seem like a poor man's Aftermath.

It just seems like an arbitrary standard and it sounds like you haven't actually tried an Aftermath if you think an EMG is so obvious a comparison that you would rule it out for that reason alone.

Its compressed and its mentions several times about the fast bass response almost as if its a/the main selling point.  I can get compression and tighter bass response from emg well so could any one but any way that's all im saying so to me MEEEEEEEE not you its a poor mans emg and emg's sound more alive they have more precense and theyre both blatantly aimed at metallers.  In fairness it was a tongue in cheek comment I didn't expect any one to get their knickers in a twist and take it so seriously so my sincerest apolgies if my comments offended your eyes in any way I don't intend to get into some sort of debate about this.

I don't find the Aftermath nearly as compressed as most actives anyway, and you're talking about the blurb on the company's website, not your own sense of its sound. So any pickup billed by any company as being tight automatically becomes a poverty-stricken EMG, even if it sounds different and costs more? You say it was a tongue in cheek comment but you keep repeating it, so it sounds like you've been sticking to it.

I'm not offended - I'm just confused as to where this rule begins and ends. I hear the Nailbomb is pretty tight, does that mean you wouldn't consider it because that would make it an EMG? What about the Painkiller, or even something like the Rebel Yell or the Emerald? I just don't understand the reasoning to rule out the Aftermath, and nothing else, because its tightness automatically makes it a version of some other pickup. There are other tight pickups, does that mean you would only pick a loose one?  :|

[JimmyMoorby]

Aside from the wild analogies going around here, if you think an Aftermath is a poor imitation of an EMG simply because it's not one, then I guess your choice is to get an EMG.

I still can't see anyone getting an Aftermath wanting a tight pickup and coming away disappointed. These pickups all have their own characters and if you want tightness and the character of an EMG then congratulations, there are millions of them on the market so they're easy to get and your choice is clear. But if you want a dry, angry pickup with lots of mids and an abrasive crunch, then in that light an EMG is going to seem like a poor man's Aftermath.

It just seems like an arbitrary standard and it sounds like you haven't actually tried an Aftermath if you think an EMG is so obvious a comparison that you would rule it out for that reason alone.

Its compressed and its mentions several times about the fast bass response almost as if its a/the main selling point.  I can get compression and tighter bass response from emg well so could any one but any way that's all im saying so to me MEEEEEEEE not you its a poor mans emg and emg's sound more alive they have more precense and theyre both blatantly aimed at metallers.  In fairness it was a tongue in cheek comment I didn't expect any one to get their knickers in a twist and take it so seriously so my sincerest apolgies if my comments offended your eyes in any way I don't intend to get into some sort of debate about this.

I don't find the Aftermath nearly as compressed as most actives anyway, and you're talking about the blurb on the company's website, not your own sense of its sound. So any pickup billed by any company as being tight automatically becomes a poverty-stricken EMG, even if it sounds different and costs more? You say it was a tongue in cheek comment but you keep repeating it, so it sounds like you've been sticking to it.

I'm not offended - I'm just confused as to where this rule begins and ends. I hear the Nailbomb is pretty tight, does that mean you wouldn't consider it because that would make it an EMG? What about the Painkiller, or even something like the Rebel Yell or the Emerald? I just don't understand the reasoning to rule out the Aftermath, and nothing else, because its tightness automatically makes it a version of some other pickup. There are other tight pickups, does that mean you would only pick a loose one?  :|

Sorry your honour for a second there I forgot this was a court of law.

In all seriousness I just don't like the aftermath bridge. BKP make several pickups which in my opinion are superior to any thing by other brands that I know of but I think with a pickup such as the aftermath and my playing style I prefer emg in every way.  You might not like that if youre a fan of the aftermath but all these things are tools and every one will use them differently.

[Dave Sloven]

It's Friday.  Chill, drink some German beer, and listen to this 19 year old ripping it up back in 1984 when thrash was being invented!

Destruction - Sentence Of Death [Full Album]

[GuitarIv]

Just listening right now to this gem:

Exodus-Bonded By Blood (Full Album) 1985

 8)

[Dave Sloven]

It is indeed a gem.  If you can get the special edition CD that came out a few years ago it's worth it.  I didn't get the other two they had (the ones after Baloff left), but I probably should have.  I used to have the first four albums on vinyl back in '89, but sometime in the '90s they were sold due to lack of funds and room :(

Also if you like this album you might enjoyed Possessed.  Check them out if you haven't already.  Larry La Londe fron Primus played one of the guitars!

[GuitarIv]

Not a big fan of Primus but will do so, thanks mate!

[Dave Sloven]

They don't sound a thing like Primus.

At the time of their last EP he was taking lessons from Joe Satriani ... who also produced the EP

Possessed - The Eyes of Horror

[GuitarIv]

I didn't mean to say they do, I just wanted to point out I don't really like Primus (although Les Claypool is one hell of a bassist) xD

[Dave Sloven]

La Londe HATES it when people ask him about Possessed!! :D  Check out the clip above, it's killer.