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Wayne_S

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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2014, 06:43:42 PM »
Yes the Rebel Yell is a more modern affair but not to the point of sacrificing vintage character. Id say it leans bit more modern only due to its clarity, tightness and cut tho its core is vintage to a good degree. The volume knob works wonders and be prepared to tighten up your playing. The dynamics are incredible even buried in gobs of gain. I did find the RY sounded better at half step down tuning vs the standard 440A. If you have a dark guitar this pup will wake it up. If you got a bright one be prepared to make some amp adjustments. The high end isn't buzzy, fizzy or grating it just has a dominate cut to it.

The neck pup is stellar in all regards. The best neck Ive ever experienced. It handles gain well, volume knob adjustments ect... Great compliment to the bridge.

The Rebel Yell dosent suck by no means. These are only the things I found after installing in my Les Paul Classic. If you want more classic tone do a Mule or Blackdog. You can get good classic vibe, its really a rock pup. Thing does 80's metal no problem, loves down tuning and handles dump truck loads of gain. Again, be prepared to have your weaknesses be highlighted. The Rebel Yell demands you to play with conviction and proper execution. When you do its very rewarding and inspiring. If you don't oh its brutal !! Ive never experienced such a thing  :D
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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2014, 11:24:15 AM »
I think i'll go for a ry. From opinions and reviews It seems the only pickup able to do some classic ac/dc to heavier alice in chains soundgarden sounds. Furthermore it seems to have a good clean too..basically a modern/ vintage pickup.. Right?

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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2014, 12:29:32 PM »
I think i'll go for a ry. From opinions and reviews It seems the only pickup able to do some classic ac/dc to heavier alice in chains soundgarden sounds. Furthermore it seems to have a good clean too..basically a modern/ vintage pickup.. Right?

Correct and good choice. Fiddle with the height. Especially the RY is hard to set right.
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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2014, 06:54:08 PM »
i really hope

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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2014, 07:11:15 PM »
Rebel Yell is an interesting option.  It's a bright and midrange focused pickup which is extremely tight in the bass.  It's not the beefiest pickup - which makes it suitable for muddy guitars - but it cuts like a razor.  It can sound a bit thin in the wrong guitar or with the wrong amp.

It's a modern take on a classic tone, it will do rock and metal like a champ.  It  also has a lot of cool vintage tones when you roll off the volume a bit.

The craziest thing, though, is the clarity it has under extreme gain settings.  Crank the gain and it maintains this complexity and clarity!  I think it would be a very appropriate tone for a Les Paul Studio.

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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2014, 07:25:59 AM »
Yes pick up height on the RY is critical. I've been jacking mine around quite abit. It doesn't  take much but on my LP pretty close up on the strings works really good. I'm also tweeking the pole screws as well. I've tapered off on the high E and B strings and have that side of the pick up pulled tad further away than the low E side. After some goofing around I got the low side set and been working small adjustments on the high side. That's been bit difficult but I'm pretty close. You gotta set it to your guitar !! Don't give up on it and and play with conviction !! I mean play the f$&#% !!!! Serious it's the strangest thing I've ever experienced. The better you play the better it sounds ten fold.

BTW I ran thru a few Ozzy/Randy riffs and started grinning. Does the Randy era real well. Soon as I get off the metal train I'm going to work some more classic stuff see what RY's can do there. My guess so far is the volume knob is going to be the key.

All in all I'm pleased with the RY's for the fact that it's helping me focus and in a weird way talks back to me. I'm very curious if other BKP's have the same deal ??  I'd love to grab another LP and do Mules or Blackdogs. Then get something to drop the Holydiver in !!!
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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2014, 10:18:11 PM »
I was going to buy the ry but i've read some opinions here on the forum about riiff raff, mule and abraxas and i'm back with doubt/ gas.. I can't win : )

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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2014, 11:00:32 PM »
I was going to buy the ry but i've read some opinions here on the forum about riiff raff, mule and abraxas and i'm back with doubt/ gas.. I can't win : )
Thing with BKP is that you will get a good choice of pickups for each style and guitar usually. More than one pickup can nail a style, but they will all do it with a different flavour. Believe me I know how hard it is to wrap your head around this. You gotta know what which pickup does in which kind of guitar and wood and how it reacts with the rest of the gear, or have people who kinda have some idea about this, which is what we do around here.

Even with that given you have to at least try and do what might be the hard part and figure out where your focus is and what kind of character you want to have. Does not have to be perfect, but it is important that you get as close as possible. Things like how open/compressed do I want my sound? Do I want singing or agressive? Wall of sound bass or tight punchyness? High mid or low mid focus...or centermids? All these things are on a contiuum and there are many more.
Describing sound is super hard and imagining it in your head is too...bringing the two together is an even bigger challenge.

Unfortunentally that is the process that yields the best result. So talk to us, tell is what you are looking for and we will do our best to help you along.



@Wayne_S You really say a lot of spot on things and great observations about the Rebel Yell in many different posts. I might have said this before, but it needs to be said again: It would be very, very cool if you could would write up a full blown review of it once you have really settled in with it.
The RY was my first BKP and the one that had me fall in love but you kinda point out things that I experienced but did not necerarily notice (if that makes sense) and put all the rest in fitting terms too. Cheers to those little bits of insight!
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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2014, 11:15:29 PM »
Thanks guys! Basically i want a versatile pick up and i'm not a metal guy. So i would like good clean and big full rock chords. But at the same time i want to play also some hard stuff, and for hard stuff i mean dam that river from alice in chains or slave by silverchair

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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2014, 11:18:27 PM »
Thanks guys! Basically i want a versatile pick up and i'm not a metal guy. So i would like good clean and big full rock chords. But at the same time i want to play also some hard stuff, and for hard stuff i mean dam that river from alice in chains or slave by silverchair

To me that sounds like the Rebel Yell, or maybe the Emerald.
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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2014, 04:29:55 AM »
@Kiichi,
Thanks Sir !! Your comments are spot on as well. I do plan here soon to give a complete review on the RY's. I'll do that after I get settled in with it as you mentioned and after I take the LP to the luthier shop for fret level, crown set up. Hasn't been in for long long long time. Going to be quite crazy having it all dialed and then really get at them RY's !!

@Ale84,
Yes stepping into BKP's can be a daunting task. Myself had a 3-4 month long deal till I took a shot at the RY's. Kiichi has very valid points. I'll add that since I got my RY's I'm now starting to see clearer what I might expect when getting the next model in the BKP stable. If you get Mule, RY's, Blackdog, Emeralds ect ... regardless if you nail it spot on the first shot just take time and get familiar with it. Once you get the vibe of BKP you'll be more confident with your next pick. I've read people here mentioning BKP's have a 3D effect. I wasn't quite sure what that meant but my take is the connection you make. I've never had before in a pickup. I've experienced it in tube amps and it's very similar. I suspect all the BKP's have this quality to some degree or another and IMO after experience with one model it's not to difficult knowing what you'll get with the 2nd purchase. I'd also bet if you don't hit it first time you can sell and pick again with out a problem. Myself there will be couple more BKP's rolling here :)
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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2014, 05:12:02 AM »
For the socalled D3-effect get some Mules in a LP or LP-style guitar. They're awesome.
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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2014, 09:53:16 AM »
The mules seem great but i think they would cover the clean and full chords needs but not the heavier sounds.. Anyway the 3d thing is very attracting

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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2014, 11:41:16 AM »
The mules seem great but i think they would cover the clean and full chords needs but not the heavier sounds.. Anyway the 3d thing is very attracting

Don't worry, they handle gain very well.

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Re: New bridge pick up on a les paul studio
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2014, 11:56:33 AM »
 :D  interesting...