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Jamie89

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Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« on: February 24, 2014, 10:03:06 PM »
I have a Jeff Beck Jr in the neck position of my Warmoth, and an unbranded 'hot rails' in the bridge position. I'm loving the JB but the hot rails is way too bright, you have to turn the tone knob right down to tame it. I'm not really au fait with single coil sized humbuckers. Just wondering if anyone could recommend an alternative to the hot rails?


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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 11:18:20 PM »
I had Dimarzio-twinrails in the past, but they weren't doing it really for me.
BKP doesn't produce hotrails as you probably know. But a Sinner-bridge will provide a big tone. Or if you like a little tamer a Trilogy with a baseplate.
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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2014, 02:22:26 AM »
the sinner can be brutal. the trilogy has some power but not as much as i'd expect
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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2014, 07:47:16 AM »
I had a Kent Armstrong rails set in a Patrick Eggle and they were too harsh/bright and quite 'scratchy'.  It now has Seymour Duncan Hot Rails (bridge) and Cool Rails (middle/neck) - they are solid and smooth and split very well. No harshness.

I cant comment on best BKP alternative SC as all mine are HBs

Are the caps and pots right for HBs in your Warmoth?
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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2014, 10:41:17 AM »
I had Dimarzio-twinrails in the past, but they weren't doing it really for me.
BKP doesn't produce hotrails as you probably know. But a Sinner-bridge will provide a big tone. Or if you like a little tamer a Trilogy with a baseplate.


I discounted the BKPs as I knew they didn't have what I was looking for. Good call on the sinner though, it just might be what I am after.

I had a Kent Armstrong rails set in a Patrick Eggle and they were too harsh/bright and quite 'scratchy'.  It now has Seymour Duncan Hot Rails (bridge) and Cool Rails (middle/neck) - they are solid and smooth and split very well. No harshness.

I cant comment on best BKP alternative SC as all mine are HBs

Are the caps and pots right for HBs in your Warmoth?

Too be honest with you I don't have a clue. I bought it second hand so im not sure what is in there. He did give me a single coil which he had removed from the guitar, so it is possible the caps and pots are wrong.

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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2014, 10:44:33 AM »
The only single coil sized rail pickup I know and have is the DiMarzio Chopper T. It is fairly hot for a single coil but probably nowhere near a SD JB Jr. The tone is rather PAF-ish than high output-ish.

If you love the JB Jr. in the neck the most obvious move would be to get the matching bridge model.

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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2014, 10:56:47 AM »
The only single coil sized rail pickup I know and have is the DiMarzio Chopper T. It is fairly hot for a single coil but probably nowhere near a SD JB Jr. The tone is rather PAF-ish than high output-ish.

If you love the JB Jr. in the neck the most obvious move would be to get the matching bridge model.

Cheers Stephan

I used to have a SH-4 in an old Kramer. The treble was too much. I'm not sure how much the JB Jr bridge pickup will differ from the SH-4. I have it in my head now that the JB pickups should only really be put in the neck. I will have a good look at the JB Jr bridge and see how it compares with the SH-4.

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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 06:17:07 PM »
The only single coil sized rail pickup I know and have is the DiMarzio Chopper T. It is fairly hot for a single coil but probably nowhere near a SD JB Jr. The tone is rather PAF-ish than high output-ish.

If you love the JB Jr. in the neck the most obvious move would be to get the matching bridge model.

Cheers Stephan

What pots you have in your guitar?

I used to have a SH-4 in an old Kramer. The treble was too much. I'm not sure how much the JB Jr bridge pickup will differ from the SH-4. I have it in my head now that the JB pickups should only really be put in the neck. I will have a good look at the JB Jr bridge and see how it compares with the SH-4.
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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2014, 09:26:11 AM »
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What pots you have in your guitar?

The Tele with the Chopper has a 500k log volume and a 250k log tone.

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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2014, 10:59:53 PM »
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What pots you have in your guitar?

The Tele with the Chopper has a 500k log volume and a 250k log tone.

Cheers Stephan

That's what it should be. I think the OP should check which pots he has. Het could try a 380, a 300 or 250k pot and see what happens. Or decide to put a Sinner in there with 250 k.
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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2014, 01:11:14 PM »
Ok thanks. I will check whats in there next time I go home.

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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2014, 01:17:43 PM »
I used to have a SH-4 in an old Kramer. The treble was too much. I'm not sure how much the JB Jr bridge pickup will differ from the SH-4.

I would guess that the treble came from the guitar more than the pickup.

I have it in my head now that the JB pickups should only really be put in the neck. I will have a good look at the JB Jr bridge and see how it compares with the SH-4.

Never played the JB Jr but I actually tried the full size SH-4 in the neck position of a LP Custom that I no longer have but wired in parallel instead of the standard series wiring. The highs and mids were beautiful in the parallel mode but the bass was still too strong for my taste.

DiMarzio has various single coil sized humbuckers but as I said I only know the Chopper T.

Cheers Stephan

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Re: Single Coil Sized Humbuckers
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2014, 06:04:02 PM »
I used to have a SH-4 in an old Kramer. The treble was too much. I'm not sure how much the JB Jr bridge pickup will differ from the SH-4.

I would guess that the treble came from the guitar more than the pickup.

I have it in my head now that the JB pickups should only really be put in the neck. I will have a good look at the JB Jr bridge and see how it compares with the SH-4.

Never played the JB Jr but I actually tried the full size SH-4 in the neck position of a LP Custom that I no longer have but wired in parallel instead of the standard series wiring. The highs and mids were beautiful in the parallel mode but the bass was still too strong for my taste.

DiMarzio has various single coil sized humbuckers but as I said I only know the Chopper T.

Cheers Stephan

I had a Fasttrack and a Tonezone T. Both a bit harsh and unspiring. A TS with a baseplate might be a better alternative.
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