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peter

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crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« on: October 01, 2014, 07:52:53 PM »
hi i have a les paul with bonamassa signature pickups the bridge is a little weak so i bought a crawler for bridge is this gonna be a good rock for bridge and blues for neck  set up? otherwise i can probably get another bridge and maybe even trade the crawler for a more suitable bridge online i know a good page where they sell and trade all the time
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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2014, 03:27:52 PM »
The Crawler in the LP will be as full as an Irishman on St. Patricks Day.
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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2014, 04:23:50 PM »
cool :D
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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2014, 06:51:53 PM »
How bright is the natural voice of your Les Paul? The Crawler excels in ash/alder bolt-on guitars like strats. It can be a hit or miss in mahogany. Sometimes the fat and middy Crawler kills in a PRS, but in a Gibson I would be careful. Maybe an Abraxas would be a good compromis between a Mule and the Crawler.
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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2014, 07:02:13 PM »
its a brightsounding les paul so im hoping it will be good if not maybe i go with the abraxas il find out thanks for letting me know the abraxas are a good choice if i hope not the crawler is a miss in the les paul :)
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peter

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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2014, 07:15:36 PM »
i sat down with it its not bright its not dark its in between like my j45 acoustic maybe  a littlle darker hope it dosent become  a problem
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peter

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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2014, 07:49:45 PM »
i read its alnico 5 in bridge shouldent that make it more trebly ? :) alnico 2 is warm and 5 is more clear bright right?
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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2014, 08:50:51 PM »
i read its alnico 5 in bridge shouldent that make it more trebly ? :) alnico 2 is warm and 5 is more clear bright right?
It is more that the lower numbered magnets are softer. However do not forget that is only one part of the equasion.
The winding of course is built to work with the magnet, so often vintage pubs are actually somewhat brighter wound because the magnets allow that without getting trebly, while the modern magnets go with a hotter wind which also is a bit darker often.
Short: The magnet gives some idea of the quality of the treble, mids, and low end, not the amount.
So a vintage pub can be trebly but not shrill and piercing while a modern pub can be dark but piercing, and all the options in between. ;)

The basic idea of the magnet types, alnicos, as put by Tim summs it up. https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8005.0
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peter

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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2014, 09:15:47 PM »
ok thanks for the info :)
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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2014, 10:02:10 PM »
Let me further elaborate a bit with examples: The Crawler bridge is AV and wound rather hot. The sound is full, warm, organic, growly, towards the dark side, yet present and not dull.
The RY bridge is also AV but with a lighter and different wind. It is punchy, screaming, loads of overtones, up front, and generally much lighter.

Here we have two vastly different sounding pickups both using AV magnets. I would assume different sizes and other factors are playing a role besides the wind as well. Both of them however play to different strengths of the AV magnet. The Crawler puts an emphasis on the defined organic low mids and bass, bringing them into focus without loosing definition, using the clear high end for balance. The RY meanwhile puts the high mids and high end cut up front with a wind that is bright, but not trebly as it is largely comprised of harmonic overtones, while the bottom end is just there for balance being clear cut and punchy.

Pickups like the Mule however are very balanced, but also have more actual high end than the RY in a way, because it has a softer, musically rounded quality to it from the magnet. The lighter wind and different wire bring out the high end and I would assume with a AV magnet it could easily get shrill and piercing. The high end on the Mule and other vintage magnet using pubs will also be more open and true to the original guitar tone, while having a certain jangle to it.

Entirely different kinds of high end and playing with the qualities given in a lot of the pickups here. Plus every guitar they are placed in makes them sound entirely different again cause the wood is another factor in that chain. That is why the Crawler usually does not go in dark guitars and the RY not in bright ones.

Oh and then you have beasts like the Emerald neck in the middle of that entire scale which uses a vintage magnet with modern wire to give the organic feel, singing voice, and mellowness together with a modern cut and fluidity.
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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2014, 11:01:38 PM »
If you want Bonamassa-tones and you own a proper tubeamp, I would inspect a Mules-set too. The Mule-bridge is balanced, yet has a nice bright, but not shrill topend. Bridge- and neck can handle gain with authority. Your win is an open, 3d and complex tone compared to say a Crawler, which has way more compression and slightly less pickattack. For dynamic playing Mules are unsurpassed. I have a Mules-set in my all mahogany Saint Blues Missisippi Bluesmaster and it's my favourite guitar for blues, bluesrock and classic rock. But even funk, soul and jazz is possible. The inbetween position (neck and bridge) is fabulous for that.
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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2014, 11:17:30 PM »
sounds like the mules are good but im tired of the vintage for years ive used vintage pups and wanting to trye something more powerful at least in one of my guitars  bu if it isnt me il change back or buy a abraxas or a mule or even a pg blues for the bridge if the last one works even thoug not a set will se its on its way the crawler and im excited
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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2014, 11:30:19 PM »
if i change both joe bonamassa pickups neck to what would you recomand for neck what bareknuckle ? to go with the crawler bridge if it all works out great when i get the crawler and i go all nuts over how goo d it is hehe
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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2014, 01:15:09 AM »
would a treeblebleed kit do any good if the crawler bridge gets to dark in my les paul?
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Re: crawler bridge and bonamassa neck
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2014, 01:20:05 AM »
would a treeblebleed kit do any good if the crawler bridge gets to dark in my les paul?

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