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Piplodocus

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P90 Questions. Middle?
« on: April 02, 2016, 03:29:21 AM »
I'm not sure what to do with this new (2nd hand) guitar. Got another Mahogany Nitefly, this one H-H, which I have had a few totally differing plans for, mostly involving a Nailbomb, but current options are...

a) it isn't isn't mint so I could change to a H-S-S scratch plate and put a Nailbomb and Irish Tours in. This is then just like my mint customised mahogany MIDI Fly, but then I'd never have to worry about the midi electronics getting beered/sweated or it taking a bash if I get carried away on a small stage. A guaranteed favourite I can worry less about, but maybe far too boring since I kinda already have this. So...
b) Put a sustainiac in the neck to go with the (probably) nailbomb bridge. Fun times. Or...
c) Try a P90 neck and see how this floats my boat. Mmmm... exciting, but is it what I want? Never had a P-90 guitar, but the "concept" of that fat SC/clearer HB for stoner rock type parts appeals. But is the neck where I'd want it? I would't really wanna lose a bridge HB though.

Questions:

I'm usually a bridge pickup player for most heavy stuff, but then like to often use either HB neck for medium gain bluesy stuff, or SC neck for funky stuff. So, would a P90 neck give me a nice cross between both for clean/medium gain blues/funky shizzle? And an added good heavy alternative to the HB? Or is it just too different a beast and might miss all targets, and just "does what it does" (not that I still shouldn't give it a go)?

The other pickup positions are all fine and dandy, but rarely used; I'm normally bridge OR neck kinda guy 95% of the time. So I was also then pondering H-S-H, or H-S-P90 for this reason but they may not be ideal either. I just thought though I can always enlarge a hole in an HSS scratch plate, and maybe I could add a middle P-90? Then I get my funky SC neck, but the rarely used middle position could give me the joy of somewhere between a P90 bridge and P90 neck. This *could* be ideal in theory. Would I use a neck or bridge version if I had a P90 middle?

I've never heard of it but I'm sure I could happily wire a 5-way super switch to do:
HB (bridge) -> split HB + P90 (mid) -> P90 (mid) -> P90 + SC (neck) -> SC Neck

Or just split the HB with a push-pull.

Has anyone ever tried something similar or got any thoughts? Am I some kinda twisted genius, or is this just the rantings of a deluded fool who would be wasting a P90 in a silly fashion? Discuss...  :shocked:
« Last Edit: April 02, 2016, 03:45:15 AM by Piplodocus »
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Re: P90 Questions. Middle?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2016, 01:36:30 PM »
Hey,

Do you have any other examples of the type of music you're going to be playing with this guitar. I just want to make sure that we recommend the right pickup for the job!

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Re: P90 Questions. Middle?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2016, 02:54:53 PM »
Big fat rock-metal in an old soundgarden/tool-ish style, possibly with even a bit more metal edge, but not too overly "metal". Generally played drop-d all down a half step, so a bit down tuned but not in the flapping trouser legs arena. This'll be going into a Diezel Herbert, so it's not like I need a huge amount of pickup output to produce the gain like I would from an 80s Marshall or anything. Then anything funk/jazzy/disco, and just general stoner-rock vibes. Really I could be playing anything, variety, crossover, changes and dynamics are the spice of music IMO, but gotta do heavy and funky, and basically as many interesting variations of sound I can. So I'm mostly interested in the "what could I make it do" that's a bit different from my other guitars. I've also pondered a Juggernaut bridge since that's supposed to be dynamic but pretty full on metal at the same time. Is it too metal though? Anything that can crush bones yet, pink floyd, twang and jazz (not necessarily on the same pickup though obviously).

Basically if you have suggestions name some ideas and what it would or wouldn't do great and I'll take it from there! :)
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Re: P90 Questions. Middle?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2016, 03:41:33 PM »
The Juggernaut is a good idea, I would also recommend taking a look and listen the Nailbomb and Holydiver. They would be great from your description.

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Re: P90 Questions. Middle?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2016, 04:28:07 PM »
Yep, I have an Alnico nail bomb in the almost identical midifly and it sounds great, and an HD in my fly mojo. That's nice too. How would you say the Juggernaut compares to them?
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Re: P90 Questions. Middle?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2016, 04:34:38 PM »
The Juggernaut will have a tighter bottom end because of the Ceramic/Alnico mix. It will be little more defined and pronounced on the top end too.

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Re: P90 Questions. Middle?
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2016, 06:28:46 PM »
Sounds pretty good to me. So, if I'm gonna do this how does this sound...

Juggernaut bridge - HSP90 supermassive middle - mothers milk (or sultan?) neck

Is that a good combo for a madman's grunge guitar?

Bridge (or neck) version for supermassive? Other internet sites have suggested differing opinion when  p90 is fitted in the middle.

No baseplate for the neck SC?

Vintage stagger or not?

RWRP for supermassive or regular? I prefer the sound of the non-RWRP on the YouTube BKP demo but that's with 2x p90s so it's not the same comparison.

What value pots do P90s normally use?

I'm figuring I'd do switching to split the Juggernaut when used with P90 as its Single coil? Or would the whole thing be better as a p90 has higher output?

Anywhere I can see all the cover types as the links in the gallery mostly seem broken?

Any other fun considerations?
Fly Mojo: HD/Mule | MIDIFly (Nitefly M): Abomb/Irish/Irish | Nitefly M: Abomb/Supermassive/MMilk | Nitefly SA: Crawler/MMilk/MMilk | Southern Nitefly: Blackguard set