Author Topic: The 8-string project - with Bareknuckles! (Read 18049 times)

dpmasunder · « **on:** May 20, 2005, 07:09:15 AM »

Hi all! I'm an Aussie guitar maker who has started work on an 8-string project for my own use, and maybe (hopefully) as the prototype for others.
I've been emailing Tim a bit about this and he's agreed to wind the pickups for it, which I'm pretty bloody happy about.
Well things are getting underway shortly so I figure the forum might be the best place for my questions from now on, so here's how it stands right now...

I've designed a pickup cover in 3d (I use Rhino if anyone cares), it's being looked at by a CNC contact soon. Providing the CNC work is anywhere near affordable I'll get the flatwork cut. I've designed the cover so the coils mount to it with screws from underneath, so I'll have to change things if the CNC isn't a goer.

Two questions -

Firstly, this vulcanised fibre I got from StewMac has a slight curve to it. Is it possible to flatten it? Does it matter?

Secondly, could a calibrated neck pickup be made as a stacked coil (think noiseless Strat) but wired in series to give humbucker-ish tone combined with narrow magnetic field Straty-ness? :grrr:

I have more ideas but I don't want to push it :lol:

Nice emoticons btw

Dan

Tim · « **Reply #1 on:** May 20, 2005, 08:06:34 AM »

Welcome to the boards Dan.

The forbon can be flattened out by a little judicious handling and placing under a heavy weight-I'm not sure how big a piece we're talking about but you should be able to reshape it if you're careful.

Stacked singles-as a rule I won't touch them.I've never heard a good noiseless single-bottom line is once the coil shape is changed, ie two mini coils or stacked and the 50/60 cycle hum has gone so has the single coil tone and you're left with something that's neither like a humbucker or single,just flat and lifeless.
If you've experience of a good sounding design I'll look at it.

Glad you like the emos :chain: :minigun: :rip: :rock: :tfrag:

dpmasunder · « **Reply #2 on:** May 20, 2005, 08:46:51 AM »

The forbon is only 6" x 6", I was thinking of ironing it :roll:

I think I get what you're saying with the stacked coil. If the coils are identically wound and sensing the same string movement they cancel out a heap of signal???

I'm not a Strat kind of guy and I've never heard a stack designed to give humbucker balls. I'm giving this thing a heap of upper fret access so things are looking a little cluttered with 2x hb's. The guitar design looks to be changing a bit from what I sent you btw

Tim, can you tap the coils on this (these?) a couple of k from the end and do 6 conductor PDT_009

You guys might appreciate this
http://people.freenet.de/schnubelken/bunnys/

PhilKing · « **Reply #3 on:** May 20, 2005, 11:35:40 AM »

Hi Dan,

What about a P-90 or mini-Mule? These are narrower than the regular HB and both have a great sound. I have a Crawler/P-90 set up and they blend really well and also give me the tone I was after. I am just waiting my mini-Mule (along with a tapped HB size P-90 and Alnico V Strat!). This is going on a custom guitar that has very little space between the 24th fret and the Wilkinson Tremelo :huge:

dpmasunder · « **Reply #4 on:** May 20, 2005, 11:55:23 AM »

Single coil isn't an option for me. I can't stand hum :lol:

PhilKing · « **Reply #5 on:** May 20, 2005, 03:32:02 PM »

The mini-mule is a LP Deluxe/Firebird mini humbucker. I guess though that for an 8 string this might be a problem! What about the PB split HB solution? Having 2 4 string single coils pickups in line with rw/rp to be humbucking?

Ratrod · « **Reply #6 on:** May 20, 2005, 03:53:01 PM »

An 8 string guitar? Where I come from we call that a harp

I'd love to see some pics of the guitars you've made. Do you have a website?

BTW, cool bunny jokes :twisted: I guess the Aussie expression would be sick but fair.

choconutjoe · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2005, 09:58:27 PM »

8-string?

Thinking of forming a meshuggah tribute band?

Tim · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2005, 10:02:01 PM »

Quote from: dpmasunder

The forbon is only 6" x 6", I was thinking of ironing it :roll:

I think I get what you're saying with the stacked coil. If the coils are identically wound and sensing the same string movement they cancel out a heap of signal???

I'm not a Strat kind of guy and I've never heard a stack designed to give humbucker balls. I'm giving this thing a heap of upper fret access so things are looking a little cluttered with 2x hb's. The guitar design looks to be changing a bit from what I sent you btw

Tim, can you tap the coils on this (these?) a couple of k from the end and do 6 conductor PDT_009

You guys might appreciate this
http://people.freenet.de/schnubelken/bunnys/

6 con!! Hell why not so long as you can figure out how to wire it up :lol:

dpmasunder · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2005, 10:14:43 PM »

lol that's the spirit!

Meshuggah noooooo. I can't stand their 8-string work.
I've been playing 7 a long time and I think 8 will help me express myself better.
It's really just laziness, the more strings you have the less you have to move your hand up and down the neck :lol:

dpmasunder · « **Reply #10 on:** May 23, 2005, 01:42:37 AM »

for Ratrod

http://www.benedom.com/seven-string.html

No website yet, it's almost ready.

dpmasunder · « **Reply #11 on:** May 23, 2005, 01:42:37 AM »

Most recent possible outline - this is the 10th attempt :lol: the jpeg conversion is a bit rough for some reason

Tim · « **Reply #12 on:** May 23, 2005, 07:31:47 AM »

They look amazing-just don't ask me to play it,I have enough trouble with 6 strings :lol:

dpmasunder · « **Reply #13 on:** May 23, 2005, 09:52:52 AM »

Any feedback on the design would be appreciated btw :drink:

Ratrod · « **Reply #14 on:** May 23, 2005, 11:09:50 AM »

Nice stuff! I like the upper horn of the 8-string, kinda like an inverted Iceman. BTW you must have BIG hands.