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sambo

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« on: April 08, 2006, 06:49:31 PM »
ok so i went to sound control and tried:

tonelab

GT-8

Pod xt live

all through headphones this time to get an idea of their full modelling capabilities- not through an amp.

firstly, the tonelab....

peoples recommendations of the tonelab for crunchy lower-gain settings were immediately apparent... nice stuff... pretty good but the higher gain settings were limited and not great.... im not saying they were cr@p though cause they definately werent... just lacked that 'something'...

cleans were good as you may expect although the operation (although meant to be really simple) was actually a bit awekward- buttons were flashing not staying on/off and the channel (clean/distortion) kept changing when i didnt want it to....

also, i managed to knock one of the 'chicken-head' style knobs off within about 30 seconds of using the machine....

next the POD..... sounds were much more full.... operation= super easy because there are no channels like the vox (and boss actually) there are just patches which are either clean/distortion so theres no confusion with switchin or selecting a certain amp type with knobs or dials.... you just use your feet to select everything which is cool...

distortion sounds (particularly higher gain) were better... more realistic, although the vox's crunch was still more valve-like and than the POD's and probably won on that point.... cleans were good and were never too harsh or muddy... everything crisp and clear for the most part...

that may have been a bit one sided but i didnt give the vox as much of a try as i would have liked.... maybe because i just wasnt into it that much i dunno... i may give it another test soon...

so i dont think theres as much of a tone difference in terms of quality, as i may have made out above...

next- GT-8.... at first.... sounds a bit muddy... but a fair bit fuller than the POD- fatter.... some sounds were harsh and some unclear... so began to tweak the EQ and amp models a little.... this made MASSIVE differences and things were improved easily... within a couple of mins of playing with an effect i got a nice metalish tone... just with my basic knowledge that metal requires less mids and more treble... so someone with more mixing skill could do a lot better.... cleans were nice too.... i think in general the POD's sounds were actually more 'life-like' than the GT-8's but the difference is the tweaking..... there really is a HUGE difference....

like i said, the editing on the boss changed things A LOT whereas even drastic EQ adjustments on the POD didnt do a great deal.....

this is where the dilemna is- get the boss hoping that with its editing capabilities ill be able to get LOADS of great sounds.... or go with the POD and hope that its relatively few (i know theres a lot but compared to the GT-8 its nothing)  sounds will keep me satisfied....

at the moment my hearts with the POD but im gonna give them another test....

dont really know why i posted this lol

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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2006, 07:36:15 PM »
couldnt you have found a stray dog, took him in, nurtured him with doggy biscuits, and done a dance of joy?

i know i would if i had a degree in astrophysics.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2006, 08:26:21 PM »
Did the Pod have all the addon model packs installed for you to try?

There's some really cool extras in those:

http://www.line6.com/modelPacks/

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2006, 10:36:17 PM »
"add on" = MORE money though :(
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2006, 02:37:40 PM »
'badgermark' (what kind of a name is that anyway)-

couldnt you just shut the hell up???

its a new thread because its a new topic- if someones looking for a comparison of the units, theyre not gonna look in say the "wish me luck" thread are they?

muttley, didnt notice any addon packs... ive heard about them though.... are they really worth the cash?

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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2006, 03:02:47 PM »
Quote from: sambo
'badgermark' (what kind of a name is that anyway)-

couldnt you just shut the hell up???


LOL.

You have to pay for add-on packs? that sucks? there's gotta be some way to download 'em for free ¬¬
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2006, 03:03:53 PM »
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muttley, didnt notice any addon packs... ive heard about them though.... are they really worth the cash?


Well, there's several packs, and depending on what style you play some may be more useful than others.

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METAL PACK

Model Name Based On
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Bomber Uber Bogner '02 Uberschall
Connor 50 Cornford '03 mk50h
Deity Lead Diezel '03 VH4-Lead
Deity's Son Diezel '03 Herbert
ANGEL P-Ball ENGL '02 Powerball
Brit Silver Marshall® '87 Silver Jubilee
Brit J-900 Cln Marshall® '92 JCM-900-Clean
Brit J-900 Dst Marshall® '92 JCM-900-Dist
Brit J-2000 Marshall® '03 JCM-2000
Diamond Plate Mesa/Boogie® '01 Triple Rectifier
Criminal Peavey® '02 5150 II
L6 Big Bottom Line 6 Original
L6 Fuzz Line 6 Original
L6 Octone Line 6 Original
L6 Smash Line 6 Original
L6 Sparkle Cln Line 6 Original
L6 Throttle Line 6 Original



COLLECTOR CLASSICS

Model Name Based On
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Bomber X-TC Bogner '02 Ecstasy
Deity Crunch Diezel ' 03 VH4-Crunch
Blackface Vibro Fender® '63 Vibroverb
Double Show Fender® '67 Showman Head
Silverface Bass Fender® '72 Bassman® Head
Mini Double Fender® '96 Mini Twin
Gibtone Expo Gibson® '60 GA-18 Explorer
Brit Bass Marshall® '68 Super Bass
Brit Major Marshall® '69 Major
Silver Twelve Silvertone® '67 Twin Twelve
Supro '62 Thunderbolt Super-O Thunder
L6 Bayou Line 6 Original
L6 Crunch Line 6 Original
L6 Purge Line 6 Original
L6 Sparkle Line 6 Original
L6 Super Cln Line 6 Original
L6 SuperSpark Line 6 Original
L6 Twang Line 6 Original



FX JUNKIE

Model Name Based On
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Killer Z Line 6 Original
Tube Drive Chandler Tube Driver
Vetta Juice Vetta Juice
Boost + EQ Line 6 Gain Boost
Blue Comp Treb Boss CS-1 w/treble switch on
Dingo-Tron Mutron III Down
Clean Sweep Line 6 Clean Sweep
Seizmik Synth Line 6 Seizmik Synth
Double Bass Line 6 Double Bass
Buzz Wave Line 6 Buzz Wave
Rez Synth Line 6 Rez Synth
Saturn 5 Ring M Line 6 Ring Modulator
Synth Analog Moog and ARP
Synth FX Line 6 Synth FX
Synth Harmony Line 6 Synth Harmony
Synth Lead Moog Lead
Synth String ARP Solina / Elka Strings
Analog Square Square CE-1 Chorus
Square Chorus Line 6 Stereo Chorus
Expo Chorus Line 6 Stereo Chorus
Random Chorus Line 6 Random Chorus
Square Flange Line 6 Stereo Flange
Expo Flange Line 6 Exponential Flange
Lumpy Phase Line 6 Lumpy Phase
Hi-Talk Line 6 Hi Talk
Sweeper Line 6 Sweeper
POD Purple X POD Purple X
Random S/H Line 6 Sample and Hold
Tape Eater Line 6 Tape Eater
Warble-Matic Line 6 Warble-Matic
Echo Platter Binson EchoRec
Tape Echo Maestro EP-3 Echoplex
Low Rez Line 6 Low Rez Delay
Phaze Eko Line 6 Phaze Eko
Bubble Echo Line 6 Bubble


I bought the 3-pack offer as I wanted the Metal and FX packs anyway.

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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2006, 03:06:33 PM »
how much was it? seems well worth getting!!
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2006, 03:30:41 PM »
yer they look pretty cool! how much for the three pack

and how much do you like your POD muttley? lol weird question i know but how do you find it general?

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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2006, 03:32:45 PM »
Metal Pack (on Line 6 site) = $49.99
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2006, 04:15:40 PM »
Quote from: sambo
yer they look pretty cool! how much for the three pack

and how much do you like your POD muttley? lol weird question i know but how do you find it general?


I like it, but I must admit I haven't used it extensively yet.  I got it mainly so I can play/record with some decent sounds when my little boy's asleep and the stack on full blast might not go down very well.  ;)

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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2006, 04:57:55 PM »
$50 is good i spose if it makes that much of an impact....


lol muttley.... kool...

how much did all three cost? how do you put em on the POD? by computer? are they more expensive in the UK?

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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2006, 05:00:46 PM »
Sam
could only find US price on their site. Even starting with UK it takes you to US for price. It is a pc download it seems.
All three modules qouted as http://uk.line6.com/modelPacks/podxtlive.html
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2006, 05:01:41 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2006, 05:08:23 PM »
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$50 is good i spose if it makes that much of an impact....


lol muttley.... kool...

how much did all three cost? how do you put em on the POD? by computer? are they more expensive in the UK?


Well, it's not a download as such.  All of the models and stuff are built into the POD already, you just get a license key which, in conjunction with a USB cable hooking the POD to your PC, and the Line6 Monkey software (you get it with the POD), it authenticates and unlocks the addons.

You can only buy them on the Line6 site, so the price is the same no matter where you are.  At the current exchange rate it'd work out at about £58 for the 3-addon deal.

There's samples up on the Line6 site.

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