I'm going back to try them again this week.
Yeah i am going to take my strap with me and see how they are like standing up.
Also i'm still leaning towards the Explorer, because old Ibanez guitars are always coming up in Coda and other shops, so it's not like i will never be able to get one.
But the Explorer is different because it is a well built Japanese model and it is hard to find a good Explorer without spending loads of money, e.g. Gibson.
And i don't want a cheap ESP LTD Explorer.
Also it is LTD Edition, only a few made, so i think i will take the opportunity and get that.
However, standing up and playing the guitars might make the difference. We shall see!