Bogner Uberschall...

[Bird]

Also, the Herbert suxx in comparison to the VH-4. It's ... well, it's a Herb!!

I thought it was pretty close to the VH-4, just based on some reading, but a little "looser". What is it about the Herb that makes it suck?

[hunter]

OTOH, the VH4 will set you back around £2400 whereas the Uberschall is a 'measley' £1899.

That's insanse! You should buy at my preferred shop in Germany. They give 3 years warranty and 30 days money back on everything (even on macbooks:) and have great prices as well as they ship to the UK too.

Prize for VH4 Mono is 2,790 EUR (1877GBP)

http://www.thomann.de/gb/diezel_vh4_6l6_gc.htm

By the way, anyone heard the new Diezel Schmidt yet? Or knows about pricing? That looks very interesting to me ... http://www.diezelamplification.com/html/schmidt.htm

[Bob Johnson]

I've had a Traynor amp before, it was 95% identical to a tweed Bassman circuit, nothing like the Uberschall.  The Uber's clean channel was most like a Fender Twin, but funkier.

The overdrive channel was just insane - I was playing Pantera riffs with the gain on 5.  Full gain is probably 'too' much, it sounded better with the gain set to around 3/4 of max (8'ish)


 :twisted:

Just for info; the YGL-3's tone stack is very much like the old Fender Bandmaster with slight shades of Marshall. It's clean up to 10/10 unless you've got something really meaty to drive it with. In short it's nothing like  the tweed bassman. You must be thinking of the Traynor YB's or something.

[HTH AMPS]

I've had a Traynor amp before, it was 95% identical to a tweed Bassman circuit, nothing like the Uberschall.  The Uber's clean channel was most like a Fender Twin, but funkier.

The overdrive channel was just insane - I was playing Pantera riffs with the gain on 5.  Full gain is probably 'too' much, it sounded better with the gain set to around 3/4 of max (8'ish)


 :twisted:

Just for info; the YGL-3's tone stack is very much like the old Fender Bandmaster with slight shades of Marshall. It's clean up to 10/10 unless you've got something really meaty to drive it with. In short it's nothing like  the tweed bassman. You must be thinking of the Traynor YB's or something.

can't remember what model Traynor it was, but when I had it open for the routine once-over it was pretty much tweed Bassman territory but more importantly, it's nowt like a Bogner Uber - this is a thread about SICK gain, heh :lol:

 :twisted:

[HTH AMPS]

OTOH, the VH4 will set you back around £2400 whereas the Uberschall is a 'measley' £1899.

That's insanse! You should buy at my preferred shop in Germany. They give 3 years warranty and 30 days money back on everything (even on macbooks:) and have great prices as well as they ship to the UK too.

Prize for VH4 Mono is 2,790 EUR (1877GBP)

http://www.thomann.de/gb/diezel_vh4_6l6_gc.htm

By the way, anyone heard the new Diezel Schmidt yet? Or knows about pricing? That looks very interesting to me ... http://www.diezelamplification.com/html/schmidt.htm

£1877 for a VH4 is very reasonable, there was another shop in Germany I emailed a while back about a VH4 and I'm sure they were knocking them out for £1325 with shipping at £65.  They were an ebay store (can't remember the name).

Are Bogner amps cheaper over in Germany? - how much are you paying for an Uber over there?

 :twisted:

[hunter]

Are Bogner amps cheaper over in Germany? - how much are you paying for an Uber over there?

 :twisted:

Don't think so. Shiva is 2,200 EUR head w/out reverb, don't know about the Ueberschall ...

[TwilightOdyssey]

Also, the Herbert suxx in comparison to the VH-4. It's ... well, it's a Herb!!

I thought it was pretty close to the VH-4, just based on some reading, but a little "looser". What is it about the Herb that makes it suck?

The basic tone structure is just cr@p. It sounds limp and muddy.