Author Topic: Speakers - Vintage 30, Classic Lead or G12H? (Read 30222 times)

_tom_ · « **Reply #45 on:** November 27, 2006, 01:44:48 PM »

I've been playing with the Laney all morning and decided that I like it best with the EQ boosting the mids a bit and rolling off the high just a bit.

Do V30s (and their clones) have an upper or lower mid spike? I tend to boost the lower mids a bit more on the EQ, makes for a very full sound that isnt muddy or overly bassy :twisted:

I'd prefer to not use the EQ to be honest, as I like to have a simple a setup as possible. Gonna order some JJ preamp valves to see if I can do away with the EQ as apparently they darken the tone..

Twinfan · « **Reply #46 on:** November 27, 2006, 02:40:31 PM »

I find that the V30s boost the lower mids and smooth off the highs - exactly what you're looking for. This is why they work so well with a lot of modern amps as they tend to be very treble biased. The GH50L isn't too bad on that score as it has a lot of bottom end to thicken the sound up.

If you fancy a trip up to Manchester sometime, you're welcome to bring your Les Paul and try it though my GH50L and V30 equipped 2x12.

_tom_ · « **Reply #47 on:** November 27, 2006, 02:48:35 PM »

Ah good I was under the assumption that they had lots of high mids for some reason.. I think I might try the Eminence V30 copy in the bottom of my cab then, the bottom speaker is a PA speaker so its pretty flat sounding I'm guessing.

dave_mc · « **Reply #48 on:** November 27, 2006, 05:30:31 PM »

Quote from: Twinfan

I find that the V30s boost the lower mids and smooth off the highs - exactly what you're looking for. This is why they work so well with a lot of modern amps as they tend to be very treble biased. The GH50L isn't too bad on that score as it has a lot of bottom end to thicken the sound up.

seconded.

HTH AMPS · « **Reply #49 on:** November 27, 2006, 09:30:00 PM »

best Celestion prices I've seen are here... http://www.loudspeaker.co.uk/

dave_mc · « **Reply #50 on:** November 27, 2006, 10:03:35 PM »

^ ditto.

the fact they include VAT and delivery makes them a lot cheaper than some of the other guys whose prices look competitive on the surface...

_tom_ · « **Reply #51 on:** November 28, 2006, 05:24:43 PM »

Cheers for the link HTH.

I posted this question on HC and (whilst I've only got 2 replies so far) they seemed to think the G12H30 would be good for what I'm after (slight mid hump and rolled off treble).

dave_mc · « **Reply #52 on:** November 28, 2006, 05:34:27 PM »

have you considered emailing celestion and eminence?

I haven't actually got round to emailing them myself about what I'm after (big surprise), but judging by the great reply I got from weber, that'd be worth a try.

Or even email the guys you're thinking of buying the speaker off...

some of the HC guys are very set in their ways, IMO- they'll fork out for a boutique head, then refuse to use sxpensive speakers and pickups, etc.

seems a bit retarded to me. kind of like buying an expensive rig and using stagg leads... (which reminds me, I have to upgrade those dodgy stagg patch cables I have :lol: )

_tom_ · « **Reply #53 on:** November 28, 2006, 05:39:03 PM »

hahah I'm using cheap patch leads aswell between my tuner and wah, because I never got round to buying anything better.

Going to hopefully try out the JCM900 cab later on at band practise. No idea what speakers it has :P

When I emailed eminence they said this about the Governor:

"The Governor is definitely a classic British voiced speaker. It is our version of a Celestion Vintage 30. Many people have claimed it has a smoother top end and alittle more bottom end (not overwhelming) than the Vintage 30. It definitely fits your style of music, in my opinion."

Their description sounds really good to me as I think I'd like the sound of a V30.. I just need to decide whether this would sound better in the top or bottom of my cab :lol:

dave_mc · « **Reply #54 on:** November 28, 2006, 06:26:33 PM »

^ cool.

At least I know to avoid that one when I get round to emailing...

:lol:

_tom_ · « **Reply #55 on:** December 05, 2006, 01:12:24 PM »

I decided to order a G12H from Appian after being recommended it over on HC aswell - £50 including next day overnight postage, you cant beat that!

Twinfan · « **Reply #56 on:** December 05, 2006, 01:25:15 PM »

Nice one - good price too! Let us know how you get on.

I'm picking up my Vintage 30s on Saturday morning. I'll get them fitted by lunchtime and crank up the Klipp :twisted:

dave_mc · « **Reply #57 on:** December 05, 2006, 04:37:27 PM »

^ ^ good work tom! Let us know how it sounds. I just need to order that private jack...

:drink:

_tom_ · « **Reply #58 on:** December 05, 2006, 04:40:02 PM »

I'm guessing it'll need some time to break in first, so I'm not really expecting it to sound amazing as soon as its installed. Looking forward to getting it though, I just hope they bring it when I'm at home tomorrow and not when I'm at school.

Now I just need to order some Laney-colour grille cloth :twisted:

_tom_ · « **Reply #59 on:** December 06, 2006, 05:14:51 PM »

Well, first impression - less bass than the PA speaker (probably to be expected though) but it seems less trebbly which is nice :) I'm gonna try swapping the speakers round once I've given it a chance to break in a bit so it doesnt have any harsh frequencies when its loaded in the top of the cab. I'm still considering getting a V30 for the bottom of the cab as I hear it goes well with a G12H in a 2x12.