Author Topic: Marshall Valvestate 8100 (PICS ADDED!) (Read 38288 times)

BloodMountain · « **on:** March 31, 2007, 11:41:48 PM »

hi all
it turns out there is one of these just down the road here in Devon on ebay, but does anyone know if it is any good?
it is one of the older valvestates, i know that.

the amp in the auction has 1 knob missing and a loose speaker output, but the other output should be fine
also, does this amp have 2 speaker outs? if so, then how many cable do you need to hook an amp with 2 speaker outs into a 2x12 combo?

thanks all :)

metal_god · « **Reply #1 on:** April 01, 2007, 01:25:25 AM »

Hey dude i have this exact amp well stack, and if you can get one for a good price get it.... theyre really good and made in england unlike some marshall cr@p today.... there's 2 speaker outs on the back obviously for 2 cabs.... though i only have the one.... plus they get great reviews for being reliable as f*ck....

WraithChild · « **Reply #2 on:** April 01, 2007, 06:11:34 AM »

I've always thought as the AVT series as very over priced and hype with the preamp tube. IMHO the only good Marshall is a tube Marshall but even nowadays they have quality control issues. If's a really good deal and you know it sounds good, snag it.

If you've never even played through it I wouldn't bother, theres nothing worse then buying an amp you don't like and have to re-sell it. Talk about a waste of time, not to mention the price of the newer (now discontinued) series AVT you can get a real tube amp around the same price.

Yes, you heard me. Marshall no longer makes the AVT series.

BloodMountain · « **Reply #3 on:** April 01, 2007, 02:18:36 PM »

Quote from: WraithChild

I've always thought as the AVT series as very over priced and hype with the preamp tube. IMHO the only good Marshall is a tube Marshall but even nowadays they have quality control issues. If's a really good deal and you know it sounds good, snag it.

If you've never even played through it I wouldn't bother, theres nothing worse then buying an amp you don't like and have to re-sell it. Talk about a waste of time, not to mention the price of the newer (now discontinued) series AVT you can get a real tube amp around the same price.

Yes, you heard me. Marshall no longer makes the AVT series.

it's not an AVT, it's a valvestate. before they invented AVT.

and they don't do AVTs anymore, no. they do AVTX, which is essentially the same thing.

i don't think i'll bother, i havent heard it, and there wasn't much time left when i last looked so.....

HTH AMPS · « **Reply #4 on:** April 01, 2007, 03:02:12 PM »

the original Valvestate heads were pretty decent - I had one as a backup when I was last gigging reguarly (only paid £50 for it)

:twisted:

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #5 on:** April 01, 2007, 03:40:17 PM »

I think you should get it, when i tried a valvestate Marshall i liked it and didn't see what all that hate was about, you will probably be able to get a great metal sound from it, and if you don't you can just use an OD pedal with it.

GET IT AND END THE SEARCH!

willo · « **Reply #6 on:** April 01, 2007, 03:42:54 PM »

I had a Valvestate amp when I was a kid. Pretty decent amp; the overdrives from it weren't crunchy, they were more like a fuzz on mine.

Cleans were pretty decent too.

I've played through an AVT recently and that was OK - but too many buttons!

BloodMountain · « **Reply #7 on:** April 01, 2007, 03:56:05 PM »

ok Joe, calm down!

i don't want a fuzzy distortion......

it ends in 2 days, so maybe i could go down there tomorrow or the day after, but i doubt my parents would take me.......

thanks for the info :)

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2007, 04:03:26 PM »

I think it's a great step-up amp, somewhere between those tiny amps you were looking at and a pro rig. It will definitely play loud enough (and have enough articulation) for gigging, tho.

One spkr out into the mono or 'use first' input of a 2x12. Have the loose jack fixed in case you get another cab, and also less to worry about down the road.

Brow · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2007, 04:21:37 PM »

I had 1 of the older Valvestates (an 8040 1x12 combo I think it was) as my 1st amp.

I remember it sounding ok, definitely better than the Karaoke Machine I was using previously :roll:

WraithChild · « **Reply #10 on:** April 01, 2007, 05:12:41 PM »

Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN

Quote from: WraithChild
I've always thought as the AVT series as very over priced and hype with the preamp tube. IMHO the only good Marshall is a tube Marshall but even nowadays they have quality control issues. If's a really good deal and you know it sounds good, snag it.

If you've never even played through it I wouldn't bother, theres nothing worse then buying an amp you don't like and have to re-sell it. Talk about a waste of time, not to mention the price of the newer (now discontinued) series AVT you can get a real tube amp around the same price.

Yes, you heard me. Marshall no longer makes the AVT series.

it's not an AVT, it's a valvestate. before they invented AVT.

and they don't do AVTs anymore, no. they do AVTX, which is essentially the same thing.

i don't think i'll bother, i havent heard it, and there wasn't much time left when i last looked so.....

It's the same idea and design. A single tube used in the preamp making it a hybrid amp.

BloodMountain · « **Reply #11 on:** April 01, 2007, 05:54:43 PM »

Quote from: TwilightOdyssey

I think it's a great step-up amp, somewhere between those tiny amps you were looking at and a pro rig. It will definitely play loud enough (and have enough articulation) for gigging, tho.

One spkr out into the mono or 'use first' input of a 2x12. Have the loose jack fixed in case you get another cab, and also less to worry about down the road.

yeah. thanks for the info, i was thinking about buying it then getting it fixed.....

would it react to a Tubescreamer as a valve amp would?

also, would it sound too much like my damned-to-hell MG?

thanks guys :D

EDIT: heres the link to the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marshall-Valvestate-100v-8100-guitar-amp-head_W0QQitemZ270103316461QQcategoryZ10171QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
it says 4 Ohms, so would a Framus 2x12 work with it?

WraithChild · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2007, 08:21:49 PM »

Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN

Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
I think it's a great step-up amp, somewhere between those tiny amps you were looking at and a pro rig. It will definitely play loud enough (and have enough articulation) for gigging, tho.

One spkr out into the mono or 'use first' input of a 2x12. Have the loose jack fixed in case you get another cab, and also less to worry about down the road.

yeah. thanks for the info, i was thinking about buying it then getting it fixed.....

would it react to a Tubescreamer as a valve amp would?

also, would it sound too much like my damned-to-hell MG?

thanks guys :D

EDIT: heres the link to the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marshall-Valvestate-100v-8100-guitar-amp-head_W0QQitemZ270103316461QQcategoryZ10171QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
it says 4 Ohms, so would a Framus 2x12 work with it?

How many OHMs is the cabinet?

BloodMountain · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2007, 08:40:24 PM »

it says "100 Watt Mono 8 Ohm" in the description:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/framus_fr212_cs_cb.htm?partner_id=59917

can anyone help me with some of my above questions please?

indysmith · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2007, 09:30:44 PM »

i doubt it'll sound much better than ur MG. Save up and get what you really want or you'll regret it later...