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Twinfan

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« on: October 07, 2007, 10:16:51 PM »
..an Alessandro Black 'n' Tan   :o

Very nice amp, if very overpriced compared to a 18w Marshall clone (or even a Tiny Terror).  A nice complexity to the sound, very 3D tone.  It had been installed with Power Scaling and I compared the Power Scaling with a THD Hot Plate.

While the Hot Plate sounded good, the Power Scaling sounded better.  It was a bit clearer and more dynamic.  The Hot Plate mushed things up a little bit and took away some of the character of the amp (replacing it with the character of the Hot Plate).  This was at very low to medium settings.  Above that, the Power Scaling had the advantage of being on a variable pot rather than stepped 4dB increments.

I'd been considering getting a Hot Plate but now I'm seriously tempted to have it added to my 100w Super Klipp.  It really is a great way to tame the power of an amp, and it's cheaper than an attenuator...

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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2007, 10:31:04 PM »
Sounds good how much? for the power scaling
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2007, 10:48:49 PM »
It's about £130ish to have it retro-fitted to an amp.  It can vary from amp to amp as it depends how much work has to go into fitting it.

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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2007, 10:59:35 PM »
I mentioned it already on another thread, but this chap on eBay has just started offering Power Scaling on his modded Epi VJs and Harley Bentons:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RAT-HOTROD-EPIPHONE-VALVE-ELECTRIC-GUITAR-AMPLIFIER-AMP_W0QQitemZ140165964349QQihZ004QQcategoryZ10171QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2007, 11:40:35 PM »
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..an Alessandro Black 'n' Tan  

I just looked at their website.  That is a serious piece of kit.   :o

How in the name of all that's holy did you get to try that, Dave?  Whose is it?
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2007, 07:12:15 AM »
I just can't wait to get my new Jtm45 with power-scaling from Martin at Martamp. I've not yet played any amp with power-scaling, but I've yet to hear a bad word about it.

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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2007, 08:32:50 AM »
Hmm, it's the new hype.

Maybe this is going to be standard in any serious tube amp soon.
Something like Master Volume was in the 70s...?

I guess there is noone fitting PS to amps in Belgium or anywhere close to here yet.
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2007, 08:53:43 AM »
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..an Alessandro Black 'n' Tan  

I just looked at their website.  That is a serious piece of kit.   :o

How in the name of all that's holy did you get to try that, Dave?  Whose is it?


Yep, it's a serious piece of kit.  WAAAAAY too expensive for my tastes though  ;)

I went over to see Martin at Martamp yesterday afternoon as a customer had sent the amp over from Italy (!!!) to have the Power Scaling fitted.  He was doing the final testing and invited me over for a second opinion.  It was very impressive, even down at bedroom levels.

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I just can't wait to get my new Jtm45 with power-scaling from Martin at Martamp. I've not yet played any amp with power-scaling, but I've yet to hear a bad word about it.


If the Alessandro is anything to go by, it'll work and sound great  :)

I'm going to speak to Martin tonight about getting it fitted to my Super Klipp.....

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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2007, 08:54:37 AM »
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Maybe this is going to be standard in any serious tube amp soon.
Something like Master Volume was in the 70s...?


Very possibly.  It's not just hype either, it really does seem to work very well.

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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2007, 05:17:25 PM »
So how much would it cost to get someone fit one of these power scaling kits in my Engl?
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2007, 05:20:28 PM »
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So how much would it cost to get someone fit one of these power scaling kits in my Engl?

Quote from: Twinfan
It's about £130ish to have it retro-fitted to an amp. It can vary from amp to amp as it depends how much work has to go into fitting it.


It's starting to look as if Kevin O'Connor at London Power is going to be a very rich man.
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2007, 05:30:58 PM »
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It's starting to look as if Kevin O'Connor at London Power is going to be a very rich man.


Let's face it, if his solution is really so simple and the result really that convincing, he is gonna make many many people around the world very happy.

If his pricing remains to be that fair, he fxxin deserves to be damn rich if that's what'll be the result for him!

Let's hope for him he's got some good patents applied for.
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2007, 05:37:37 PM »
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Let's face it, if his solution is really so simple and the result really that convincing, he is gonna make many many people around the world very happy.

If his pricing remains to be that fair, he fxxin deserves to be damn rich if that's what'll be the result for him!

Let's hope for him he's got some good patents applied for.

Absolutely.  I hope he keeps control of his invention so it stays available to everyone, and doesn't sell out to one of the big corporations.

I wonder how long it'll be before we see a Big Name offering power scaling?
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2007, 05:49:07 PM »
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I wonder how long it'll be before we see a Big Name offering power scaling?


Probably Behringer, it will be called Power Scale Volume and they will do as if it were their latest invention.

They will offer it on their 6202 amps or their soon to be launched QuickMod :twisted:
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2007, 06:22:28 PM »
Anywhere in London where I can get this done?
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