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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2007, 12:42:41 AM »
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Yes, he will. Thats how I got mine done: rewind


how much did it cost, and was it worth it? is the feedback a lot worse?

sorry for going off topic, but i think this could also be good info for morgray

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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2007, 12:46:38 AM »
I dont recall exactly. I think it was 40 or 50 quid.

The pickup is very quiet. Only thing is it got quite a bit treblier, but it was double screw pole, so I just raised the neckwards poles a little. Now very, very aggressive, very heavy and has that fat tight MM low end, fat low mid and sweet, sweet high end. But at flamethrower levels. A true 81-killer  :twisted:

Yes it was worth it.

But I really dont recommend overwinding a warpig. They already have plenty of power. It sounds like the guitar is the problem: a pickup cant pickup tone that isnt in the guitar!!!

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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2007, 12:54:54 AM »
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I dont recall exactly. I think it was 40 or 50 quid.

The pickup is very quiet. Only thing is it got quite a bit treblier, but it was double screw pole, so I just raised the neckwards poles a little. Now very, very aggressive, very heavy and has that fat tight MM low end, fat low mid and sweet, sweet high end. But at flamethrower levels. A true 81-killer  :twisted:

Yes it was worth it.

But I really dont recommend overwinding a warpig. They already have plenty of power. It sounds like the guitar is the problem: a pickup cant pickup tone that isnt in the guitar!!!


1. what is a quid? any clue how much that'd equal in US dollars?

2. i quite like the tone i'm getting. its a gibson v, as seen in my avatar. i'm just thinking my pinches aren't ringing out as much as they could with more hotness. they scream when i throw an extra od pedal in front of the amp, but i'm more into not using effects.

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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2007, 06:34:39 AM »
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1. what is a quid? any clue how much that'd equal in US dollars?


Quid = pound. Don't ask me why, just a common slang phrase.

Exchange rate is around 2 dollars to the pound at the moment.
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2007, 07:28:45 AM »
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i quite like the tone i'm getting. its a gibson v, as seen in my avatar. i'm just thinking my pinches aren't ringing out as much as they could with more hotness. they scream when i throw an extra od pedal in front of the amp, but i'm more into not using effects.


did you take off the pickup cover?
if you like your tone boosted, what's the problem in keeping it boosted?
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2007, 11:54:25 AM »
pickup hotness is a bit of a weird thing. i actually think i get more drive from my mules or riff raffs (if i hammer them) than my miracle man. and i find it the easiest to get pinches with the lower output pups.

the MM has more compression, doesn't really matter too much if i just play medium hard or give it everything.
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2007, 02:12:21 PM »
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pickup hotness is a bit of a weird thing. i actually think i get more drive from my mules or riff raffs (if i hammer them) than my miracle man. and i find it the easiest to get pinches with the lower output pups.

the MM has more compression, doesn't really matter too much if i just play medium hard or give it everything.


+1

I also find my MM sounds better when you're careful with how much gain you use. I find if you pile on the gain it doesn't really get hotter, it just handles it well. There is a sweet spot for the pinch harmonics though and they are pretty much effortless, but good technique helps.

To get them sounding good I find I need a boosted sound, my TS on clean boost does the trick as would any TS type OD pedal. Just limit the drive/gain and make the amp do the work.

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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2007, 02:17:25 PM »
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if you like your tone boosted, what's the problem in keeping it boosted?


+1. I dont really like using boosters, but I find that it doesnt matter how hot my pickups are, it'll never sound like a boosted signal from an overdrive does, which to me sounds tighter and has more harmonics.

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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2007, 03:16:38 PM »
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pickup hotness is a bit of a weird thing. i actually think i get more drive from my mules or riff raffs (if i hammer them) than my miracle man. and i find it the easiest to get pinches with the lower output pups.

the MM has more compression, doesn't really matter too much if i just play medium hard or give it everything.


That responsiveness is a valuable thing, but most metal nutters need to get a punchy, aggressive sound with clean and really quite non-aggressive playing.

Its hard to beat the living shit out of stings at >200bpm for an hour and keep it all clean and precise  :(

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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2007, 01:55:30 AM »
1. not using pickup covers.

2. it seems to me like i lose a lot of chunk and bass when putting an od pedal through. i do however use it for most solos.

3. i've got the guitars controls on 10, and the gain on 10, and i still don't quite get the pinch harmonics i'm looking for. i guess i didn't quite explain right. its that they're not sustaining long enough, not that they're not coming out.

4. i want my tone to overall have a bit more distortion, and i'd rather not have to have it boosted all the time.

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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2007, 03:03:22 AM »
It's not wired in parallel, is it?
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2007, 04:12:34 AM »
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1. not using pickup covers.

2. it seems to me like i lose a lot of chunk and bass when putting an od pedal through. i do however use it for most solos.

3. i've got the guitars controls on 10, and the gain on 10, and i still don't quite get the pinch harmonics i'm looking for. i guess i didn't quite explain right. its that they're not sustaining long enough, not that they're not coming out.

4. i want my tone to overall have a bit more distortion, and i'd rather not have to have it boosted all the time.


overwind your pickup won't do it for you
what pedal and settings are you using?
what's your amp?
usually tube screamer type of od pedals tend to make your tone sound thinner and focused
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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2007, 12:49:35 AM »
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It's not wired in parallel, is it?


i did find out my guitar isn't wired how it came from the factory, but i haven't a clue what parallel means in this case.

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overwind your pickup won't do it for you
what pedal and settings are you using?
what's your amp?
usually tube screamer type of od pedals tend to make your tone sound thinner and focused


its a Zakk Wylde overdrive. i bought it before i got a real amp. i don't really like it, but i figure it was fairly expensive and to get something better it'd be a good deal more. my amp's a marshall 3203 artist.

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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2007, 02:40:54 AM »
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overwind your pickup won't do it for you
what pedal and settings are you using?
what's your amp?
usually tube screamer type of od pedals tend to make your tone sound thinner and focused


its a Zakk Wylde overdrive. i bought it before i got a real amp. i don't really like it, but i figure it was fairly expensive and to get something better it'd be a good deal more. my amp's a marshall 3203 artist.


i use this pedal with my peavey rockmaster and my leadvox leadmaster preamp (basically a soldano SLO preamp with an extra gain stage and less gain cut)
it makes my holy diver sound tighter and the bass sounds fatter, not thinner
i use the level on 10, tone on 6, drive on 0
with my ex-guitar with miracle man i was using the level on 7.5
i like it better than tube screamers
it's a lot more effective as a booster and make tube distortion sound heavier instead of thin it out
maybe you're trying to add the drive of the pedal?  :?:
it makes the distortion sound artificial and noisy

i don't know this Marshall 3203, but i think it has a solid state preamp and it's not so gainy
you definitely won't get a full tone without a boost
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« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2007, 02:48:38 AM »
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Quote from: Eric Hellstye
overwind your pickup won't do it for you
what pedal and settings are you using?
what's your amp?
usually tube screamer type of od pedals tend to make your tone sound thinner and focused


its a Zakk Wylde overdrive. i bought it before i got a real amp. i don't really like it, but i figure it was fairly expensive and to get something better it'd be a good deal more. my amp's a marshall 3203 artist.


i use this pedal with my peavey rockmaster and my leadvox leadmaster preamp (basically a soldano SLO preamp with an extra gain stage and less gain cut)
it makes my holy diver sound tighter and the bass sounds fatter, not thinner
i use the level on 10, tone on 6, drive on 0
with my ex-guitar with miracle man i was using the level on 7.5
i like it better than tube screamers
it's a lot more effective as a booster and make tube distortion sound heavier instead of thin it out
maybe you're trying to add the drive of the pedal?  :?:
it makes the distortion sound artificial and noisy

i don't know this Marshall 3203, but i think it has a solid state preamp and it's not so gainy
you definitely won't get a full tone without a boost


yeah i actually have the level on like 6, tone on 6, and gain on like 8. I know adding to the gain makes it sound worse, but i wanted the extra sustain. anyway, i guess i'll try putting the level on ten and take out the drive. little randy rhoads clean boost?

as for the amp, yeah its some type of hybrid. i'm not really knowledgeable about whats tube and whats not, but originally when i was looking at reviews most people said the distortion channel is just as good as any marshal out there, and i love it. clean channel sucks ball though...