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CJ

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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2007, 12:10:30 AM »
i wouldn't normally link to another forum, but i'm also asking this question on another one, guitarists.net, and i'm receiving help from someone who is quite knowledgeable about electronics over there and i can't quite explain what he's saying, so if you could just take a look here...

http://guitarists.net/forum/view_bb.php?forum=19&thread=78830

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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2007, 12:48:40 AM »
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on the switch, there are 3 arms or whatever (lugs?) in a row, and then that one on my diagram thats sticking out the side is actually in the middle below the other three.

That's what I was trying to describe - so it looks like the switch is wired correctly.

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my neck pickup is grounded out on the bridge vol pot, and then soldered to the left lug of the bridge pot (should be to the neck..?) and the diagram shows it should go to the middle lug.

You can have the pickup wire connecting to the left lug of the pot, and the middle lug connected to the switch.  Or the other way round, as shown in the Guitar Electronics diagram.  Both ways work, I don't know how much difference it makes.  It's more common to connect the pickup to the left lug.

As far as I can tell, it looks like your guitar is wired totally normally (apart from the two volume pots being swapped round, but that makes no difference).
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2007, 01:01:25 AM »
I posted this link in the other thread too, but here's a Seymour Duncan diagram:
 
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_2v_1t_3w

Ignore the colour-coded pickup wires and the different physical layout of the controls - it's basically the same as the wiring of your guitar.

This diagram also shows various ground wires (the thin lines) connecting the pots and switches, which is what the guy was going on about on that other forum.  If you don't have these ground wires, don't worry because the foil backing on your scratchplate basically makes the ground connections anyway.
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2007, 03:23:45 AM »
so i think right now i'm fully functional besides when in neck position i can't control individual volumes. all i have to do is switch the wires around connected to each volume pot, right? as in, reverse the two on one pot, then the other two on the other pot...?

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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2007, 10:11:55 AM »
When in neck position you should only be able to control the volume of the neck pickup.  Same with the bridge volume in bridge position.  You can only use both volumes in the middle switch position.  Was that the question?

As for swapping the wires on the volume pots, it's up to you - if you mainly use the bridge pickup, it's arguably more convenient to have the bridge volume closest to your hand.  (Or did you mean swapping the pickup wires from the left to centre pot lugs to resemble the Guitar Electronics diagram?)
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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2007, 11:05:19 AM »
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so i think right now i'm fully functional besides when in neck position i can't control individual volumes. all i have to do is switch the wires around connected to each volume pot, right? as in, reverse the two on one pot, then the other two on the other pot...?


There are many ways to skin a cat.  First off the main wire from the pickup goes to a tag on the volume pot.  

The SD diagram shows it going to the first lug and then a wire from the second lug goes to the switch.

The GE diagram shows it going to the middle lug, then a wire from the first lug to the switch

the 3rd lug goes straight to the back of the pot on all volume controls

Both work fine, but slightly differently.  when the neck pickup is selected the neck volume is in control - the other does nothing, when the bridge is selected the bridge volume is in control - thats the same on both diagrams

They differ when you get to the middle switch setting.  With the SD diagram when one volume is turned down the guitar will go quiet even if the other volume is up.  WIth the GE  diagram the volumes will still work independantly - so you would need to turn both down to make the guitar quiet.

Some people find the SD one annoying because it doesnt allow you to blend the pickups, some people find the GE one annoying because it takes longer to silence the guitar.... Personal preference

the tone control should work in all settings.

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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2007, 04:31:41 PM »
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When in neck position you should only be able to control the volume of the neck pickup.  Same with the bridge volume in bridge position.  You can only use both volumes in the middle switch position.  Was that the question?

As for swapping the wires on the volume pots, it's up to you - if you mainly use the bridge pickup, it's arguably more convenient to have the bridge volume closest to your hand.  (Or did you mean swapping the pickup wires from the left to centre pot lugs to resemble the Guitar Electronics diagram?)


yes, and yes. sorry for the confusion. meant to say middle position, not neck. and i also meant switching the wires from the left to center, as this should allow for blending in middle position, right?

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2007, 04:50:25 PM »
yes it will

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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2007, 06:14:29 PM »
I find blending easier with the stock wiring.
Can't understand why you would want to change.

(should also apologise for my incorrect comment which i said the vol pots were the other way round, didn't look at the wire crossover  :roll: )

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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2007, 06:23:42 PM »
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I find blending easier with the stock wiring.
Can't understand why you would want to change.

(should also apologise for my incorrect comment which i said the vol pots were the other way round, didn't look at the wire crossover  :roll: )


its not the stock wiring. guitar center messed with it. i can't blend in the middle position right now, one volume controls both. not a big deal, but i've already got my guitar stripped down. plus, i want to learn to solder.

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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2007, 10:41:00 PM »
re-wiring successful! haven't tried the guitar yet though, so don't know if it sounds any better. i just tapped on the pickups while messing with the controls to make sure everything is technically working.