Author Topic: Dimebag (Read 10736 times)

Woogie · « **on:** October 30, 2007, 08:33:21 PM »

I know he's awesome etc but I just realised how beautiful his playing is/was. Listen to the 'Hollow' solo. It just flows so effortlessly and it really is packed with feeling. Anyway, not very important but I just had it on and thought I`d share my thoughts :).

Roobubba · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2007, 08:49:51 PM »

What I love about his solos is how they flow in a completely unconventional way. They kind of seem topsy-turvy, but when the whole lot comes together, wow!

Stunning player, and a real inspiration to many, many guitarists!

There's a whole lot of talk about "tone", especially regarding gear, but people so often forget that sheer skill alone contributes more to the end product than X pedal or Y speaker. Myself included.

R.I.P Dime, lost, but not forgotten!

HTH AMPS · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2007, 08:52:58 PM »

Dime was completely unique, he just did his own thing and had amazing groove and a br00tal tone.

:twisted:

CJ · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2007, 09:53:36 PM »

he was freaking awesome. All of his playing seemed to perfectly complement the rest of the song.

WezV · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2007, 10:57:13 PM »

Quote from: Roobubba

There's a whole lot of talk about "tone", especially regarding gear, but people so often forget that sheer skill alone contributes more to the end product than X pedal or Y speaker. Myself included.

thats what dimebag always proves to me. he has fairly cr@p guitars, really bad pickups and a fairly bad amp but it still works!!

Most people playing with that gear would sound awfull

(yeah i know i threw quite a lot of personal gear opinion into that post!!

)

Mr Ed · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2007, 12:20:28 AM »

Dimebag is my metal GOD. The best metal player there ever was and ever will be.

I miss him more and more every day. I always hoped for an album that would throw-back to the first four Pantera albums, glam rock right up the wazoo!

CJ · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2007, 12:36:10 AM »

Quote from: WezV

Quote from: Roobubba

There's a whole lot of talk about "tone", especially regarding gear, but people so often forget that sheer skill alone contributes more to the end product than X pedal or Y speaker. Myself included.

thats what dimebag always proves to me. he has fairly cr@p guitars, really bad pickups and a fairly bad amp but it still works!!

Most people playing with that gear would sound awfull

(yeah i know i threw quite a lot of personal gear opinion into that post!! )

yeah but i think his tone really worked well with what he was playing. kind of like rhoads and his tone. not the greatest tones, but perfect for what they're doing.

and what's wrong with Deans?

Mr Ed · « **Reply #7 on:** October 31, 2007, 01:21:31 AM »

I $%&#ing love Deans - I'd sooner have an ML over a Les Paul any day of the week!

And his pickups weren't cr@p either, his idea of flipping the BL 500L (and later the XL model) around to reverse the magnets was frigging brilliant. Definately one of the key moments in Pantera's history to allow them those driving chugging riffs.

I think the only sticking point for Dimebag was how thin his tone was because of the zero mids but, y'know, it worked. It gave him a really standout tone and with the addition of an EQ for solos he was able to truly burst out and cut through the mix. It's a refreshing change compared to how generic and soundalike so many bands are these days. And the fact that he used solid state amps (up until Krank that is of course) simply because there wasn't a tube amp loud enough for him!!

WezV · « **Reply #8 on:** October 31, 2007, 08:20:44 AM »

Well i have nothing against deans really - they are damn cheesy but as with all makes, there are good ones and bad ones!!

The xl500's are a bloody finicky pickup though. I have installed quite a few of them and never been happy. I have used both original bill lawrences direct from bill and i have used bill lawrence USA pickups from the company that uses his name.. and i had someone bring me a set of them that i couldnt identify as either

there is a lot of debate about which one dimebag actually used but it seems most likely to me that he used both. he liked them on the dean that he won in a competition so probably would have used the first ones he found when trying to equip his other guitars without any knowledge of the rivalry between the companies. The funny thing is that both companies have used the same photo to prove he used their pickup.

anyway, lots of people want them because they are after the dimebag tone but in my experience most are disappointed. But thats always the case when trying to get the tone of a certain artist.

i really dont like the Seymour duncan version - lets just leave that right there!

it definately works for dimebag - no arguments there! Most of us would finder it much harder to get a decent tone out of the exact same setup

Mr Ed · « **Reply #9 on:** October 31, 2007, 10:09:26 AM »

I don't mind the DImebucker... IF you're into that completely mid-less metal tone. If you want any mids, you're $%&#ed.

_tom_ · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2007, 11:55:32 AM »

I dont really like his tone that much but it wouldnt be Dime without that buzzy chainsaw type guitar sound! It got a bit fatter on the later albums I think. Anyway, my favourite metal guitarist who wrote some of the most stupidly heavy riffs, no one comes close (imho).

dave_mc · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2007, 12:44:55 PM »

excellent player. Not too fussed on his tone, but his playing is sublime... if you're allowed to call anything related to metal "sublime" without having your br00talz licence revoked, that is. :oops:

Sadly missed...

Ratrod · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2007, 01:07:12 PM »

Dime's best tone and work was on Trendkill, IMHO.

The BL XL500L was a great pickup. I had one. On Trendkill Dime used his signature Washburn Dime 3. Mahogany body, maple (slightly carved) top, black binding, yellow green sunburst finish. I saw one of the USA models in a shop once. Stunning guitar.

The solo's on that album are the most tastefull he ever did.

Mr Ed · « **Reply #13 on:** October 31, 2007, 01:39:42 PM »

I think Cemetary Gates (my favourite metal song EVER) can be branded a "classy" solo - he's able to demonstrate his playing but most of it is really melodic and tasteful.

Right, listening to CFH when I get home.

Everytime I use my Crybaby From Hell, I get the urge to grow a big bushy beard, dye it red and develop an unhealthy obsession with camo. :lol:

Pierre · « **Reply #14 on:** October 31, 2007, 01:55:12 PM »

Quote from: Mr Ed

I #$%!& love Deans - I'd sooner have an ML over a Les Paul any day of the week!

And his pickups weren't cr@p either, his idea of flipping the BL 500L (and later the XL model) around to reverse the magnets was frigging brilliant. Definately one of the key moments in Pantera's history to allow them those driving chugging riffs.

I think the only sticking point for Dimebag was how thin his tone was because of the zero mids but, y'know, it worked. It gave him a really standout tone and with the addition of an EQ for solos he was able to truly burst out and cut through the mix. It's a refreshing change compared to how generic and soundalike so many bands are these days. And the fact that he used solid state amps (up until Krank that is of course) simply because there wasn't a tube amp loud enough for him!!

How was it brilliant? The two coils in this pickup are the same. It shouldn't make any difference. Maybe he got a different unit from Bill Lawrence?

I don't mind Dime though the whole image whoring he had before and even worse AFTER his death is pissing me off a bit. Yeah he should be remembered, but should he be remembered as Dean's main marketing feature? Meh. Not a guitar hero for me, not an influence but definitely a good enough player. I still don't understand the brilliance of Walk but I surely get the break in This Love and the main riff in Cowboys from Hell.