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« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2008, 05:19:14 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2008, 01:31:39 PM »
Ok PhillyQ, you wanted to see the Gibson Q3000?  here it is!







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« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2008, 01:38:04 PM »
very interesting pics blue. 'sweet axe' as they say! :)
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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2008, 01:38:58 PM »
That's just weird!!!!

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« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2008, 01:58:06 PM »
thanks Gwem, and yes Twinfan, it is weird!  being a mid eighties rock axe with a whammy you'd expect a fast, slim neck, but no! chunky, rather awkward neck.  i've no idea what it's made of, but it's very light which, with that rather large headstock, makes it quite neck heavy.  i think the bridge and/or string clamp needs attention, as it just will not stay in tune, even with ordinary string bends never mind any kind of whammy abuse.

but, it's weirdness is the reason i still have it  :roll:  :wink:
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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2008, 04:31:50 PM »
What the hell - A gibson super strat? :D
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2008, 04:55:09 PM »
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What the hell - A gibson super strat? :D

They had some seriously weird guitars in their catalog in the 80s.  I vaguely remember this one & have often wondered if anyone actually owned one - now I know! :lol:

Not surprised you have tuning problems.  The Kahler string clamp always sucked IMO (though the trems were great) - I had one on a Charvel & it did become unreliable after a while.  If it was a guitar of little value, or something that I played a lot, I'd be tempted to get a Schaller locking nut (like you typically see on Floyds) fitted.
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2008, 05:08:15 PM »
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What the hell - A gibson super strat? :D


they did try!  there was the WRC, in conjunction with Wayne Charvel. it flopped.  there was this Q3000 and it's variations (different pickups and bridges). they flopped.  they got closer to a good guitar with the U2, but it still didn't exactly set the world alight.  they finally, in my opinion, got it absolutely right with the MIII, but by then it was too late, the guitar hero was a dying breed and grunge was the big thing.  if they'd built the MIII in the mid eighties instead of faffing about half heartedly for seven or eight years i think they'd have had a big hit on their hands.  it did most of what a PRS 513 did fifteen years later for a fraction of the price and without the need for a security guard and an insurance policy to play the damn thing!

these days there's a new reissue Les Paul every twenty six minutes, and that seems to keep them happy.  but given the resurgence in rock guitars and the revival of the MIII shape by Epiphone, maybe we will see a new Gibson version.  :wink:
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« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2008, 05:10:49 PM »
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Not surprised you have tuning problems.  The Kahler string clamp always sucked IMO (though the trems were great) - I had one on a Charvel & it did become unreliable after a while.  If it was a guitar of little value, or something that I played a lot, I'd be tempted to get a Schaller locking nut (like you typically see on Floyds) fitted.


i was thinking of getting something done, maybe just a replacement clamp and a new nut, but i had thought of a floyd style nut.  i'd just be a little afraid of major surgery.
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« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2008, 05:20:54 PM »
I would love to have a Gibson MIII; I just looked on google and it is a gorgeous piece of guitar design.
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« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2008, 05:23:21 PM »
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What the hell - A gibson super strat? :D


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« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2008, 05:24:34 PM »
i have four of them!  my red standard was my first "good" guitar about fifteen years ago.  the other two standards and a deluxe have come to me via e-bay over the last few years.  i love those damn things  :oops:  :wink:
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« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2008, 05:39:43 PM »
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Not surprised you have tuning problems.  The Kahler string clamp always sucked IMO (though the trems were great) - I had one on a Charvel & it did become unreliable after a while.  If it was a guitar of little value, or something that I played a lot, I'd be tempted to get a Schaller locking nut (like you typically see on Floyds) fitted.


i was thinking of getting something done, maybe just a replacement clamp and a new nut, but i had thought of a floyd style nut.  i'd just be a little afraid of major surgery.

Yeah, I guess I'd be a bit leery of any major change on such an unusual guitar - it only takes Dave Grohl to be seen with one & you'll have buyers queuing up to offer you a fortune :)

Basically, it's a flawed design because with the string going over the nut, unless it's aligned very precisely, the string has to be pushed down slightly to be held by the clamp.  In other words, the string wants to lift to make a straight line from nut to machinehead & has to be forced to sit at the bottom of the clamp.  With time the clamp just doesn't hold it tightly enough.

Then there's also the problem of the string grabbing slightly in the nut - even though there's only ¼-½" of string between the nut & clamp.

A Floyd nut solved this as the string tension holds it flush to the surface of the shelf, so the locks only serve to prevent lateral movement.
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« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2008, 08:18:13 PM »
My oldest (and my first guitar) is a Spanish Classical guitar. Was given it in '85.

The oldest electric I still own is an '88 Ibanez RG550 that I bought new. Was real tempted to buy one of the reissues they did recently.
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« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2008, 08:25:09 PM »
Quirky and cool. :?
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