Painkiller set capable of these cleans?

[G9]

Those pickups are the same as was on my 7321 - they're dreadfull. Pitifull difference between even bridge and neck. This is another ball game entirely ;)

No yeah I realize... what go me on the quest for new pickups in the first place was because the guitar I wanted to buy had cr@p pickups stock.

[dheim]

Those pickups are the same as was on my 7321 - they're dreadfull. Pitifull difference between even bridge and neck. This is another ball game entirely ;)

No yeah I realize... what go me on the quest for new pickups in the first place was because the guitar I wanted to buy had cr@p pickups stock.

but this is one of the best things about ibanez... you can swap pickups without any sense of guilt. actually without even trying the stock units! LTD keeps equipping every guitar with EMGs (unless you buy one of their low end models that are much worse than cheap ibanez)...

[G9]

Those pickups are the same as was on my 7321 - they're dreadfull. Pitifull difference between even bridge and neck. This is another ball game entirely ;)

No yeah I realize... what go me on the quest for new pickups in the first place was because the guitar I wanted to buy had cr@p pickups stock.

but this is one of the best things about ibanez... you can swap pickups without any sense of guilt. actually without even trying the stock units! LTD keeps equipping every guitar with EMGs (unless you buy one of their low end models that are much worse than cheap ibanez)...

True. You can customize your instrument without qualms.

[G9]

So anyone want to confirm the statement about parallel vs series for the humbucking? Is too much heat taken out by parallel?

[dheim]

yes, they sound almost like single coils... but it's not an alternative to series, it's just an additional wiring option usually for position 2 or 4 of 5 way switches... usually ibanez have it out of the factory... my s320 has it, for example.

[gwEm]

parallel is a nice option, much prefer it to split. mdv is right - try it!

[G9]

parallel is a nice option, much prefer it to split. mdv is right - try it!

How are they better than split?

[gwEm]

parallel is a nice option, much prefer it to split. mdv is right - try it!

How are they better than split?

parallel is fully hum cancelling, and has a stronger tone than split (believe it may also be much louder from memory)

for years i used a parallel wired dimarzio super distortion for metal rhythm, had it permanently wired - didn't even ever use series. i got this tip from paul gilbert originally.

it still sounds single-coil-ish clean, and we could argue about the parallel vs series clarity when driven - but i think the parallel is clearer.

in the bkp range i only tried a parallel wired warpig. but it sounded really good! still thick, but not as bass heavy, much more manageable.

i've never been happy with coil split in humbuckers to be honest - it misses something. the drop in volume is too great too.

this thread makes me want to wire a switched pot to my painkiller just to try parallel out on it myself ;)

edit: my memory is hazy on the split/parallel volume level difference. but parallel must have sounded the best in my experiments, since thats how i left it

[G9]

parallel is a nice option, much prefer it to split. mdv is right - try it!

How are they better than split?

parallel is fully hum cancelling, and has a stronger tone than split (believe it may also be much louder from memory)

for years i used a parallel wired dimarzio super distortion for metal rhythm, had it permanently wired - didn't even ever use series. i got this tip from paul gilbert originally.

it still sounds single-coil-ish clean, and we could argue about the parallel vs series clarity when driven - but i think the parallel is clearer.

in the bkp range i only tried a parallel wired warpig. but it sounded really good! still thick, but not as bass heavy, much more manageable.

i've never been happy with coil split in humbuckers to be honest - it misses something. the drop in volume is too great too.

this thread makes me want to wire a switched pot to my painkiller just to try parallel out on it myself ;)

edit: my memory is hazy on the split/parallel volume level difference. but parallel must have sounded the best in my experiments, since thats how i left it

I'm still confused as to how parallel relates to series. Should I just have it set to:
1. Neck Humbucker parallel
2. Neck Humbucker split
3. Mix split
4. Bridge Humbucker split
5. Bridge Humbucker parallel

Or am I missing out on the higher output, so you're saying:
1. Neck Humbucker series
2. Neck Humbucker parallel
3. Mix parallel
4. Bridge humbucker parallel
5. Bridge humbucker series

In the end, whether I utilize parallel or split, I want something that's smooth, clear, and extremely nice for cleans. And when we're talking high-gain, whether I utilize series or parallel, I want... power... for lack of a better word. If parallel has a "single-coil-ish" quality, I don't want it for the high gain stuff. I want good cleans, but primarily this is a guitar for metal.

[gwEm]

i would go with the second of those options!

[MDV]

I rather like parralel for metal.

It can give you the clarity you need sometimes.

I wouldnt have said it has a single coil quality. I can see whats meant by that, but thats not what I'd call it. It can give some great metal sounds, especially leads.

[G9]

I rather like parralel for metal.

It can give you the clarity you need sometimes.

I wouldnt have said it has a single coil quality. I can see whats meant by that, but thats not what I'd call it. It can give some great metal sounds, especially leads.

Right... for me if I'm going to lower the output in any way, whether splitting or paralleling, it's strictly for the cleans. With that said, what's the better option? Parallel vs split?

[MDV]

I rather like parralel for metal.

It can give you the clarity you need sometimes.

I wouldnt have said it has a single coil quality. I can see whats meant by that, but thats not what I'd call it. It can give some great metal sounds, especially leads.

Right... for me if I'm going to lower the output in any way, whether splitting or paralleling, it's strictly for the cleans. With that said, what's the better option? Parallel vs split?

Well, mister I-decide-what-I-think-about-sounds-and-what-I'm-going-to-do-with-them-before-I've-heard-them-and-dont-listen-to-people-that-have

Both.

Push pull pots and a 4-pole-5-way can give you splits and paralels.

[dheim]

with a 5 way and a miniswitch in place of a tone control (who the hell uses tone anyway!) you can have a lot of options. i never tried but it's actually possible...

[G9]

Okay so what exactly would the setup look like?

I asked a quote from a local service:
1. Neck Humbucker Series
2. Neck Humbucker Split / Parallel
3. Neck/Bridge Split
4. Bridge Humbucker Split / Parallel
5. Bridge Humbucker Series

With push-pull changing between split and parallel on positions 2 and 4. However, I received a reply that push-pull has to affect all positions... is this where the mini-switch would work?