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Author Topic: SSS set for early to mid Yngwie/Joe Stump sound? Plus info on JVM/Vint. Modern!  (Read 8114 times)

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Oooh that's nice. Won't have the money until next week though :(

Back to the pickups though. What are the Trilogy Suites like in the neck for both clean tones, and sweeped and shredded Yngwie type phrases?

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Yngwie uses Jcm 2000's live. You may look into them. Im quite the odd guy around here, because i cant stand the JVM, but i love the dsl100 to bits.
That amp is simple, tried, tested and works for both shred and even extreme death metal, if you like that kinda stuff ;)

I've seen Yngwie multiple times and I've never seen him use a JCM2000. It's not like his wall of Marshalls is hard to miss haha. I've always seen Plexis. Only time I've seen him play a JCM2000 is on an instructional video :S Hemay have experimented at one point though when he was doing his sig amp.

Plus he has his own sig amp now, so wouldn't be good promotion for Marshall if he was using a different amp to his sig lolz.

I know his european rack was jcm 2000's. I saw it in a video a year or two back.. But i could be wrong. Im just quite certain of it.

I remember that death also used other amps than what you saw on the stage on their human tour. They had two walls of marshalls onstage. But behind them, chuck had a Solid State  GK 250ML combo mic'ed up.. :)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 08:19:10 PM by Madsakre »
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Oooh that's nice. Won't have the money until next week though :(

Back to the pickups though. What are the Trilogy Suites like in the neck for both clean tones, and sweeped and shredded Yngwie type phrases?

I don't have them, though I heard clips and read about it here on the forum. Designd for more modern tones, so should fit the bill for Yngwie and that kind of stuff. They are darker then say IT's, but clean up great.
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Trilogy Suites are the choice.

But I do think the DOD250 is an important part of that tone as well. If you get a reissue, you can mod them to the same specs as the original, or try a BYOC kit.

Its worth having an old opamp in there - changes the pedal quite alot IMHO. The reissue isn't bad, but its alot more fun when you mod it.
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I actually own the DOD Yngwie pedal so that's a start.

Another question I had was, what's the Trilogies like in terms of noise? I'm only familiar with Hum-Cancelling singlecoils. Is the hum you get annoying?

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I really didn't want singles for my Jackson so I fully intended to just use BKP in the bridge but in the end I just couldn't move away from BKP so I got Trilogy Suites instead. I must say I don't find them bad for noise at all. At high volume and high gain there's obviously more there than on a humbucker  but nothing like as bad as I thought it would be and it certainly isn't bad enough to annoy me.
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a good noise gate in front of the amp can fix anything (except the amps noise)
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How has no one mentioned the Marshall 6100 30th Anniversary amp!? Oh well, I'll throw in a great word for it.mi justngotmone a couple weeks ago, and though I'm still in the honeymoon phase, I'll share my thoughts.

The cleans are the best Marshall cleans you've ever heard. I'd say you could put them up against any Fender or Roland.

The crunch channel is exactly what you're looking for. It has 3 voicings, JTM45, SLP, and JCM 900. All of them sound killer, and really gives you versatility as to what you want your tone to be.

Channel 3 lead just gives you a bit more of everything on channel 2, especially gain. Perfect for kicking on for solos as that extra gain/volume boost.

All in all this is an absoloutely KILLER amp, but not many know about it. It was made to be Marshall's best amp ever, Jim said so himself. I'd say this amp nails most tones from any amplifier they've made before 1992, and really is just a great amp. Look into it, you won't be disappointed.

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well, the clean channel has indeed a fender-like circuit, but the other channels are quite original
no plexi or jcm 900 in there
guess it does sound pretty good, but that should be heavy as $%&#
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I actually own the DOD Yngwie pedal so that's a start.

Not a bad pedal I think. But, I suggest putting one of these kits on it:

http://www.monteallums.com/pedal_mods.html#DOD
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That Marshall looks really good. I'm going to have a good look at that.

The pedal mods on that site are really cool. Just going through them all right now.

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That Marshall looks really good. I'm going to have a good look at that.

The pedal mods on that site are really cool. Just going through them all right now.

I've had a few of his kits over the years. They've all been pretty good!
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Hey guy,

Thought I would jump in here!

I have both a JVM and a 50w VM - and a Dimarzio YJM set.. Here is my take on all these.

The JVM is a fantastic amp, which you can get any sound out of.  Try the Crunch red channel - beefy as shite, very touch sensitive and cleans up nicely with the volume control. The clean channel is really good too - from almost a sterile Marshally sound to a warm, slightly breaking up Fendery sound.  The VM I find to be a sterile, one sound amp - I don't like it at all any more and I don't think it is what you are after. I would get a JVM, particularly if you plays a variety of stuff. 

Mind you, why not get a YJM 100 - I may try and get one myself!

As for the pickups, the YJM set is not very powerful, quite expressive but lacing, IMHO, in enough grunt to get a good sound for me.  I have just replaced them in my Warmoth with what I had in my parts bin - a Dimarzio Virtual Vintage bridge, old Fender middle and a Dimarzio Virtual Heavy Blues in the neck ..... Much much fruitier and allowing me to go from Hendrixy cleans to Eric Gales bluesy goodness and even harder Satriani, YJM stuff.

Just my opinion!

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for the price of a new YJM100 he could buy at least 2 used marshall half stacks
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