Author Topic: Trvium's new song. (Read 15038 times)

crispsandwich · « **on:** August 20, 2006, 10:04:07 PM »

Just listened to the studio version of Detonation. When I first heard it live I thought it was cr@p but after hearing this version I'm hooked. The guitar playing is unreal. Loads of sweeps and really technical stuff. They really sound like old Metallica in places. I can't wait for this new album.

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2006, 01:03:01 PM »

I hate Trivium's first and second album, but the guitar work in them is quality.
But $%&# yes the first bit in Detonation is godlike, sounds so 80's thrash, i thought holy cr@p Trivium have turned good!
But then it went all emo for the second half of the song.

lepersmeesa · « **Reply #2 on:** August 21, 2006, 03:56:08 PM »

It would be good if they could play live anywhere near how the play on record.

The new song is alright, but half way through it just feels like they have gone into a completely new song. But yeah, heavily Metallica influence. He sings alot like him now.

dave_mc · « **Reply #3 on:** August 21, 2006, 04:23:38 PM »

wow, i just checked it out on youtube. at least there's no damn cookie monster vocals/screaming any more, which was promised. Sounds very like metallica though... almost a step back.

And you know what I always say about new bands which just copy old bands... if i want to listen to metallica (or whoever), I'll just listen to metallica.

EDIT: oh, and their vibrato is cr@ppy. On the ascendency album (which I have), the leads just sound like a cr@ppier rip-off of friedman.

Oh, and I've just got to a better bit of the song now. That's better. :D

the first half is way too derivative, though.

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #4 on:** August 21, 2006, 04:25:42 PM »

There is an even newer song now called Anthem (We Are the Fire)

It sounds even more 80's, it's actually so 80's! I don't think you could get mote 80's!

It's got a kind of Motley Crue kind of chorus imo, also the solo reminds me of a Dragonforce solo for some reason!

It's avaliable as Windows Media Player Stream from Roadrunner's site:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/music/

dave_mc · « **Reply #5 on:** August 21, 2006, 04:30:11 PM »

^ nice. \m/

I still prefer the stuff from the actual 80's... but metalcore (or whatever you want to call it) IS a step in the right direction, IMO. It's a lot better than nu-metal, that's for sure.

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #6 on:** August 21, 2006, 05:09:51 PM »

I really don't think Trivium's new stuff is really that metalcore, i think it's more just metal.

chrisola · « **Reply #7 on:** August 21, 2006, 06:09:58 PM »

live i also thought 'what the hell is that shitee??'

It sounds good i spose, but soloing is like 'hey dude, i just learned to sweep pick, listen to me shreeeeeeeeeed!'

Not bad though, sounds like 2 songs mashed together...

I like Trivium but live i've not heard them play anywhere NEAR what the CD's are like, i thik (you can hear it on this track) they use too many overdubs and the such... if you watch the 'RoadRunner United' video you can see them ripping the 'In The Fire' solos in the studio in one take, which are killer.. they can definitely PLAY some 8)

I've heard that my fav solos by them on Ascendancy were played by their producer on the recording.. no wonder they always play them different live ;)

I will be buying the new album upon relase! Hope they dont get boring like SHadows Fall did..

_tom_ · « **Reply #8 on:** August 21, 2006, 07:32:17 PM »

I cant find a good version of this song anywhere.. not exactly expecting much though as I hate Triviums "old" stuff.

Davey · « **Reply #9 on:** August 21, 2006, 08:57:37 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNLDLyeepVs

this kind of stuff of theirs sucks SO bad, it blows.

comparing their soloing to dragonfarce, does nothing for their credibility either.

it's literaly like he learned how to sweep and now it has to be everywhere.

if i want 80's to the max, i'll listen to paul gilbert.

_tom_ · « **Reply #10 on:** August 21, 2006, 09:14:38 PM »

Quote from: Davey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNLDLyeepVs

this kind of stuff of theirs sucks SO bad, it blows.

comparing their soloing to dragonfarce, does nothing for their credibility either.

it's literaly like he learned how to sweep and now it has to be everywhere.

if i want 80's to the max, i'll listen to paul gilbert.

hahahaha I love those videos :lol: so funny

HTH AMPS · « **Reply #11 on:** August 21, 2006, 09:36:46 PM »

It just goes to show that they could be literally singing about anything - I enjoyed that more than any Trivium song too.

:twisted:

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #12 on:** August 21, 2006, 09:51:24 PM »

It is true that Trivium sucked huge amounts of donkey c--k before, but the next album might be listenable i think.
Obviously i'm not going to buy it, i'll leave that to my lame nightwish loving brother.

Sekhmet · « **Reply #13 on:** August 21, 2006, 10:25:25 PM »

Personally i've never liked Triviam one bit, a few friends tried to get my into Triviam by playing me they're records, i had to point out the ammount of guitar riffs that have almost been directly lifted of other bands albums (Arch Enemy, Megadeth and yes even Maiden).

I don't question they're abilty as musicians, they're good, but appart from keep heavy(ish) music in the lime light they're not really doing anything new or origional for the music industry.

Take the song "detonation" the first 80's riff sounds exactly like something off an old Destruction/ Kreator album, the secod half is just another emo kid tear jerker... *yawn* and the solos although fast are dull, sounds like there just there to go "look at me i can play fast..."

(Last triviam bashing paragraph)

"if you watch the 'RoadRunner United' video you can see them ripping the 'In The Fire' solos in the studio in one take, which are killer.. they can definitely PLAY"

Yeah those solos are cool, i do love that album but... you only see what roadrunner and the bands want you to see, how do you know that they hadn't been sitting there working on it for hours befor hand? it's not like it was a constant live documentary of the process.

As for sweaping, it really annoys me at the moment, because no one does anything origional with it, it's jsut seen as an easy way to play alot of notes really really fast... no one sees any sort of potential in it past this point, of course i'm not saying everyone is like this, but 90% of the time when you hear someone sweap its the same old up, down, up, down, same patterns, same tone, same everything (like the triviam song) but ah well.

Its sort of like the Buckethead and friends lyrics for "Funbus"

Why has the humor died in music today
everyone is so serious that I'm afraid to say
tough guy stance is lost on me
violence is neccessary it proves you are free
happy being sold mediocrity
failure only happens from originality
Its more important to be tough than to have any fun
like an insecure human who fears everyone
music is art that we're afraid to enjoy
like a child who's outgrown his favorite toy
afraid to acknowledge what makes us feel good
afraid to leave the mold , if we only could
a group is always easier to follow
then finding something new to swallow
so give us the art thats boring and plain
its easier to be different when its the same
fear something new till we're told its ok
no time to explore no time to play
the craving for new is something to shun
thinking is bad it spoils the fun
discover youself with mass appeal
pretend your choices make you real

deg0ey · « **Reply #14 on:** August 21, 2006, 10:43:53 PM »

Quote from: Sekhmet

As for sweaping, it really annoys me at the moment, because no one does anything origional with it, it's jsut seen as an easy way to play alot of notes really really fast... no one sees any sort of potential in it past this point, of course i'm not saying everyone is like this, but 90% of the time when you hear someone sweap its the same old up, down, up, down, same patterns, same tone, same everything (like the triviam song) but ah well.

I agree...I never learned to sweep, as I'm not hugely interested in being able to play that fast - but I always thought it would be cool if people tried sweep picking across only 3 strings. Could extend the variety of patterns used somewhat methinks :drink: