Author Topic: most suitable highgain bridge pickup for a Jackson AlderRR1? (Read 21208 times)

HTH AMPS · « **Reply #45 on:** December 03, 2006, 01:40:30 PM »

I think string gauges can make or break a guitar's tone (I've played 11s in standard tuning since forever).

I sold an SG a good few years back that had 11s on but I changed it back to 9s when I sold it. When I put the 9s on and plugged the guitar in the tone had REALLY suffered (not just the 'feel').

In my experience, the action on a guitar can also have the same effect. There is a sweet spot where the guitar just 'rings' - I can't cope with those low shredder actions (yuk!)

Finally (getting back to pickups), I have a Miracle Man in my Les Paul and feel its a very tight and defined pickup. I always think of it being built specifically for speed metal - chunky AND defined!!!

:twisted:

Daemon Barbeque · « **Reply #46 on:** December 03, 2006, 04:36:52 PM »

Well you can use an EQ really well for tighten the things up.An EQ in your rig will be "active" ,and it is far away from being overkill.Try a MXR 10 band EQ.Perfect for changing your amp tone ,reshape it as you like to.The GAin control is perfect too ,so you can lower the output from your PU ,or give it even more gain.

String Gauge change ,or string brand change is a huge step IMHO.
I am a string whore myself ,and believe me ,it's a big difference.
My Fav strings are Dean Markley blue steels now.Less overtones (it will be no problem for the MM anyway) ,more midds and tighter tone!The Tightest string that i used where Daddario 12/56's.But they are too fat for your playing!

Your amp is far away from being tight ,so EQ and strintg change will be the best bet..still ,170 dollars are less than 2000 dollars for a new amp anyway!

Oh , BTW ,did you try to change your picks?Nylon picks have a looser tone than tortex ,and celluloits are the tightest and nicest ringing for my ears.And picking position plays a role too.The closer to the bridge ,the tighter the tone gets!And muting the strings that you don't play is a great step in tighter playing!
I hope it helps
Cheers! :lol:

octavio_amzer · « **Reply #47 on:** December 03, 2006, 05:57:55 PM »

wow! thanks alot guys!

I sure need to try out all the things you mentioned!

EQ and string gauge will be on my list :)

Now that we are talking about cheap things that really make a difference I can say that I also use "dunlop black jazz picks".

keep em coming. I'm sure this is also useful info for other guys as well 8)

Daemon Barbeque · « **Reply #48 on:** December 04, 2006, 12:54:34 AM »

Quote from: octavio_amzer

wow! thanks alot guys!

I sure need to try out all the things you mentioned!

EQ and string gauge will be on my list :)

Now that we are talking about cheap things that really make a difference I can say that I also use "dunlop black jazz picks".

keep em coming. I'm sure this is also useful info for other guys as well 8)

The Tortex Jazz ones (the tortex material but the jazz form) ,The Jazztones (205 ,206) ,ot the typical Nylon Jazz in black?
The first one is a great allrounder ,the jazztones are 2mm thick and great for shredding but not well defined for downstroked palmuted riffing.The las one is not tight enough for my ears.and i hate the attack with some noise.
Ibanez heavy (1mm)'s are great.The teardrop formed ones are tight ,well gripping and long lasting.If you like it so small as you said.the Ibanez heavy (celluloid) would be the best bet.try them out dude!

blue · « **Reply #49 on:** December 04, 2006, 11:51:43 PM »

Quote from: MDV

How do you know?

I mean, you mention guys that use *blah* guage, but how would you know what they sound like with a different guage? I'm sure they tried em and made their minds up, but you've only heard them using what they use, in amongst all the other stuff they use.

Sorry, but thats not evidence. Evidence would be showing that they make no difference while keeping everything else the same in a setup.

I mean, in Eb slayer use 9-42, and it sounds heavy because they use modded silly-power marshalls...but how would it sound if they played reign in blood with 10-52? Kerry and Jeff probably know, but not you or I.

I've tried many string guages. Almost all that there are (8-38 (didnt last long!), 9-42, 9-46, 10-46, 9.5-48, 10-52, 11-50, 12-54, 11-53, 10-60, 11-60, 10-70, 13-70 adn a couple of wound 4th sets that I gave a chance for 10 minutes that werent that different at the extremities but have forgotten have all passed through my electrics. Some stayed), and it makes a HUGE difference.

HUGE.

And yes, its all prefference. But please dont try to tell us that string guage makes little difference. It doesnt change the character of your tone (though string brand will!) but it will change your tone a lot!

whoops, didn't mean any offence! :oops:

i don't mean to say that string guage doesn't make any difference to tone, it absolutely does, just that this perception has built up that only heavy strings can sound good.
lighter and heavier strings will sound different, but only the person playing them can say which they prefer.

as to the pickups, i have a 7 string miracle man and i do sometimes find it lacks some definition, despite what others say. to get the best out of it seems to require amp settings that then don't suit my other guitars. for the right job it's fantastic, but it's definately less versatile than a lot of other bareknuckles. not quite a one trick pony, but it fulfills it's job description, which is all you can really expect of it.

MDV · « **Reply #50 on:** December 05, 2006, 12:06:51 AM »

No offence, man, of course not. It was just something that I KNOW is wrong, so I had to ask: dont tout the misinformation.

Thanks for the clarification, but what I got from what you wrote before was 'they dont make a difference' not 'you dont need them'.

Fact is, if you want a tight metal tone...you still dont need them but it makes an incredible difference (your example in metal, dime, had a pretty tight tone that he got from an array of pedals adn SS amps...not all things equal!).

There are tonal benefits to thin strings too...but a tight, heavy sound isnt one of them!

gingataff · « **Reply #51 on:** December 05, 2006, 01:54:42 AM »

If you try the 10s and find them too much there are now a number of companies making 9.5 - 44 or 9.5 - 46 guage. Try Curt Mangan, R.Cocco, Caribe and SIT. (some are cheaper than others! :) )
I have used them on my Gibson scale Charvel as 9s are too light but 10s just feel wrong under my fingers.
That said I'm now using Elixir 10s as it's been so humid here that most strings corrode too quickly and they last a lot longer, unfortunately they don't make 9.5s.

octavio_amzer · « **Reply #52 on:** December 05, 2006, 03:09:24 AM »

this may sound wierd but I decided to go for the "Nailbomb" bridge with my cold sweat.

I will start using a hevier string gauge and go down to "Eb".

CJ · « **Reply #53 on:** December 05, 2006, 03:11:10 AM »

i still don't see why people with 9's don't just step up to 10's. i honestly believe the tone is much better. and all it takes is one week and you won't even realize that you're playing on 9's. I went from 9's one week, to 10's the next, and now i'm at 11's. i can bend them just as good as i could with the 9's, and everything feels more tight, and right. and they help me rhyme.

WITH FULL DISTORTION · « **Reply #54 on:** December 05, 2006, 04:24:50 AM »

Quote from: octavio_amzer

Quote from: WITH FULL DISTORTION
OK... just one note ahahahahah
Nailbomb is #$%!& Tight. i thought it was flabby or something like that. but i just amazed on how the pickup surpassed my expectations.
it has bass enough, TIGHTNESS enough, and excellent mids.
Good Harmonics, and Very good Middles.
i wish it had an overal darker sound. but it´s FAR than Excellent.
i´ll keep this one and get MORE bkps. definitelly.
Its the devil´s Pickups.
JP

it won't sound too bright on alder???

Alder? i think it will not sound that brighter.
since you have a mesa boogie amp right?
Q:)

WITH FULL DISTORTION · « **Reply #55 on:** December 05, 2006, 04:26:09 AM »

Quote from: Mister Crowley

Quote from: octavio_amzer
Quote from: WITH FULL DISTORTION
OK... just one note ahahahahah
Nailbomb is #$%!& Tight. i thought it was flabby or something like that. but i just amazed on how the pickup surpassed my expectations.
it has bass enough, TIGHTNESS enough, and excellent mids.
Good Harmonics, and Very good Middles.
i wish it had an overal darker sound. but it´s FAR than Excellent.
i´ll keep this one and get MORE bkps. definitelly.
Its the devil´s Pickups.
JP

it won't sound too bright on alder???

Looking at Full Distortion's list of guitar brands most of those are alder bodied guitars, so maybe his Nailbomb isn't as dark since it's already in an alder bodied guitar? I don't know, I've heard plenty of nailbomb clips in many different wooded guitars and none of them have sounded too bright at all. Opeth you'd defintely want Nailbomb, Painkiller is more for gay English Leather Biker Rock :P

well, almost all my guitars are basswood... and i´m really NOT a fan of this wood. this wood is too neutral.
the only exception is the ibanez. mahogany body. the rest are basswood body guitars
Q:)

WITH FULL DISTORTION · « **Reply #56 on:** December 05, 2006, 04:28:16 AM »

Quote from: Philly Q

Quote from: octavio_amzer
mmmm.... does it really sound "british" and gay :( ?...

Well it definitely sounds British, but only fairly gay IMHO. Gayer than a Warpig, but not as gay as a Dimebucker or ....

Maybe that's something Tim and the boys could consider including in the specs on the website update - DC resistance, bass, lower mids, upper mids, treble and gayness.

ahaHAhaHAhaHAhaHAhaahaHahaHAhaHahaHAhaHAhaHAhaAHaHAhh
AHhAHAhaahAHAhaHAhaHAhaHAhaHahAHaAHahaHahAHahAH
ahAHahAHahAhaHAhahaahahahahahAHahAHahAHAh
That was $%&#ign Funny Philly
you cracked me up i almost pissed my pants ... too much laughings

WITH FULL DISTORTION · « **Reply #57 on:** December 05, 2006, 04:29:21 AM »

Quote from: Afghan Dave

"I just lurve my Warpig... Squeal little piggie.. squeal....

"hey is that a Nailbomb in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?"

ahAHAHAHAHAHAH AND THAT WAS ULTRA FUNNY
AHAHAHAHAAHH shite. stop with that gay jokes or i´ll laugh so strong that i´ll cry
ahahahahahahahaahahah

WITH FULL DISTORTION · « **Reply #58 on:** December 05, 2006, 04:41:37 AM »

Hej MDV
"I was just trying to point you in the direction of looking at other aspects of your sound. Its possible for teh MM to sound mushy in a mushy amp, for example. Its quite scooped with a lot of low mids, so if you play scooped, or you have an amp that is strong in those ranges (like my TSL) then it may lose clarity. "

I TOTALLY Agree with your lines
i took me a while(and im still figuring out) to get used to my 5150.after years of SS amp playings.
not telling that octavio has some faggy amps, but just telling my experience.
ok,Octavio, if you are not goign to use a lot of Blastpicking(like black and death metal picking. you call it Alternated picking)..then get a nailbomb.
and, if you are concerned about the brightness. email tim about it. if you think it will sound bright.
mine is installed in my Charvel Fusion Deluxe. Basswood(or poplar? not sure yet) ,and maple/rosewood neck fret.
24 short scale.
tuned to D standard. no drop d(fag´s tuning ahahahahah) and with 0.12 string gauge. Daddario strings.
the Nailbomb is tight. excellent from Thrash and Heavy Metal.
it´s brightness is compensated by the ammpount of bass. so, it didn´t sound Brittle, harsh, fizzy or fuzzy in my gear. it´s a 5150 head and a marshall 4x12 1960.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh you may try to hear the guys advice and try anotehr settings on your amp
i,personally don´t like to scoop my middles. it´s like hide my dick in my pants. ahahahahahahah like a she male does. ahahah not my cup of tea at all. ahahahahahahahaha LOL.
i like mids. they help the crunchy, the Lead voiceins and articulation and they help you to shine on the band´s mix.
also, the nailbomb´s bass are great
the only thing that will sound not as dirty as i would like, is the fact that i previously described here.. about the blastpicking/alternated black/death metal picking. it will clean this technique too much, and it will not have the same vibe. as if you were playing it through a nastier pickup.like emg.
Q:)
Then, this is the perfect pickup for clean stuff, clean and distorted leads, semi distorted tunes, ultra distorted, distorted and even Faggy distorted sounds.
it sounds Airy,vintage and metal.
this is an excellent/perfect Pickup for Heavy/Thrash Metal. and other mellow, but still Metal Musical Styles.
trust me. ahahahahah
$%&#gin Hails.
João Paulo

WITH FULL DISTORTION · « **Reply #59 on:** December 05, 2006, 04:53:52 AM »

MDV... i also would like to ask for your $%&#ing help on the string gauge thing.

i have this Ibanez S1220Wnf prestige. maple /rosewood neck/fretboard.
22 jumbo frets.
scale mus be a 25,5 or a 25,75´
and i´m having problems with it´s tightness
strings NEVER soung tighter.
i use .73 and .88 strings. but i don´t use the pointy part of the pickps, but Both sides of it. don´t know if you understood. the sound sounds a lot tighter and bigger
and i preffer it than using thicker picks.

i´m using that guitar with Standard daddario 0.13 strings.
what would you recomend me?
i tried to pull out one of the 4 springs.. and it didn´t work that much. still flabby strings. And note, increased the Height on it .... it´s more than 2mm tallness.
it´s $%&#ign weird.Ah.. forgot to say that it´s tuned to B standard(Carcass-Heartwork)

$%&#ign Hails
JP