Genocidal, I really do not follow your reasoning-sorry. The "law" is not a singular piece of legislation. You obviously do not like the concept of democracy and I can accept that a pure democracy has yet to be devised but even our flawed system is, at least in my view, preferable to unelected dicatorships-just my view you understand. Getting back to the thread, I think the thing I object to with the proposals that exist for identity cards is that the information stored will be in one place and I simply do not believe that the capability exists to restrict what is on it to those who have a legitimate reason to access it.
Yes, I am aware that the law isn't a single piece of legislation. If you hadn't noticed, that wasn't really the point I was making.
The same could be said of any bank's computer system. Presumably you do have a bank account?
1st right now any & all bar people can ask to see some form of ID. So why dont they ? Just because an ID card is introduced doesn`t mean it cant or wont be forged. Making it as redundant as Driving licences, passports etc. The real problem is it`ll only need to be an ID card that criminals, Terrorists & anti socials will need to fraud. Its allready been reported & stated on "Question Time" by MP`s themselves that there is allready a huge blackmarket quoting prices for these cards [ £1,500 per card ] was the figure touted. Criminals wont care who they sell these cards to, this will actually hinder the fight against terroism & wont stop a single 16/17yr old drinking in a pub/club.
Yes, you're quite right, every single 16/17 year old in Britain will gladly spend £1500 on a fake ID. Pubs don't ID because they'd lose a lot of customers and because it's a pain in the hole dealing with thousands of different types of ID cards, and a lot of adults don't carry ID anyway. Common sense would therefore seem to dictate that if everyone carried ID and if there was a single type of card, more pubs would ID people.
Again, I don't care about terrorism. It's never going to be serious enough that it's actually worth bothering ourselves about. Not here, anyway.
As for the argument that other organisations hold more info about you than the govenment its true. As a labour MP stated. "Tescos no`s more about you than we [ Govenment ] do". The difference is YOU choose to give that info to other organisations & your under no threat of Fines/imprisonment if you dont. YOU have freedom of choice. The ID card will have none. It`ll be a criminal offence not to have or carry one.
That really is a piss weak difference. So $%&#ing what? Back to banks, what are you going to say if some hacker manages to empty your life savings? "I'm not upset, I chose that bank"? No, you're not. Why? Because it happened to you, and that's the only person you really care about. If 59,999,999 people put themselves in danger of their own free will then that's ok, for the pure and simple reason that you're not one of them.
As for the argument that says politicians no what there doing, Are you F***ing joking ! There`s only 2 MPs i`ve heard in the last 20 yrs that have made any sense at all. The politicians are only concerned with power. They dont give a flying F**k about me, you our familys, friends they only want the power, & not to do good but to rake in as much money inorder to fill there egos. Any one who trusts a politician in this day & age is simply a total F***ing A**hole. Be smarter, ask questions of them & dont let them flob you off with some bulls**t awnser.
And yet you can't supply a sliver of a shred of evidence to support any of that conspiracist cr@p. You don't know what you're talking about. It's as simple as that.
Oh, and look up "average" in a dictionary, then look up "every" and see if you can notice a slight difference.
38th just seems to be ranting, there's no substance at all to that last post.
