Author Topic: 13 string super bass (or how not to build a guitar!!) (Read 31535 times)

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #45 on:** July 31, 2007, 02:30:29 PM »

Quote from: WezV

i know what you are saying blue, i do feel a little cruel!!

But the issue here isnt that he has tried to make something and got it a bit wrong - i wouldnt usually mock somebody for that... The issue is that hes trying to pass it off as something good, and whats worse - he is trying to sell it as a proper instrument!!!!

If he had made this for personal use i would be very supportive to his experiments. i would offer constructive criticism where i think he had gone wrong and if he listened he would probably end up with something at least playable.

as soon as i put it up for sale he opened himself up for public humiliation, and his attitude doesnt help!!!

Here is a 'sound clip' over a slideshow:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y73rYHdnw

Lets just say there is no way those bass sounds are coming from that bass and leave it at that!!

I am all for extended range basses - still not sure how people play them but there are lots of very talented luthiers experimenting with designs.

here is a nice well made 10 string:

http://www.melodiamusik.com/musical/images/img_w300/Foto_17%20-%2010%20string%20Bass%20Jerzy%20Drozd_w300.jpg

9 is really a more common number:
http://www.veilletteguitars.com/program_generated/blogs/images/veillette/1158847482.jpg

here is a guy that plays 9,11 and 12 string basses and is apparently having a 13 string made (not by this guy though):
http://www.myspace.com/jeanbaudin

So, in theory i must say i am not against the idea of a 13 string bass.... this thing would be just as bad if he had made it as a four string!!!!

http://www.jeanbaudin.com/ - Click on basses/gear.

One of his 11 strings - Made by Conklin ofc..

And the coolest ever 9 string - Also made by conklin...

WezV · « **Reply #46 on:** July 31, 2007, 03:42:28 PM »

They are amazing when done properly!!

indysmith · « **Reply #47 on:** July 31, 2007, 03:49:32 PM »

jeeeeesus the MATHS that must go into one of those things is scary!

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #48 on:** July 31, 2007, 04:21:18 PM »

Quote from: indysmith

jeeeeesus the MATHS that must go into one of those things is scary!

Indeed!

Fanned frets are incredibly beautiful though - And really not that difficult to play on - Infact, I find it easier in some ways.

The body shape of the 11 string is really phenomenal - With those beautiful woods it doesn't look so exclusively "black metal" infact - It looks amazing beautiful and ornate.

WezV · « **Reply #49 on:** July 31, 2007, 04:52:35 PM »

the maths isnt to bad for fanned frets - you just need to decide what scale length your highest and lowest strings will have and essentially after that you just join the dots!!!

I am put off making owt like that for a while because the hardware cost alone would break the bank!! but really it wouldnt be that much more difficult to do!!

38thBeatle · « **Reply #50 on:** July 31, 2007, 06:12:17 PM »

I wouldn't know where to begin with 11 strings- now 4 or 5 I can cope with. I wonder what the regulars at the Ferret & Paint Tin would make of that.

Kilby · « **Reply #51 on:** August 01, 2007, 12:00:37 AM »

Foe the original guy my mother would have used the phrase,

He's more to be pitied than mocked

* except he is either delusional or or he us trying to rip (stupid) people off *

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #52 on:** August 05, 2007, 04:42:04 AM »

And it failed to sell.

Even at £400 - He can forget the grand he was asking for.

38thBeatle · « **Reply #53 on:** August 05, 2007, 10:54:02 AM »

Ah well, back to the drawing board( perhaps making one rather than using it). I guess the world at large thought that firewood would be cheaper and far more freely available locally.

gingataff · « **Reply #54 on:** August 05, 2007, 02:16:14 PM »

I was going to post this link but my girlfriend thought it was to cruel, I said "If I don't then somebody else will".
"Oh, OK!" she replied.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VrJA9LmAKy4&mode=related&search=

Woogie · « **Reply #55 on:** August 05, 2007, 02:26:28 PM »

^^ rofl

Bird · « **Reply #56 on:** August 05, 2007, 02:37:33 PM »

Quote from: gingataff

I was going to post this link but my girlfriend thought it was to cruel, I said "If I don't then somebody else will".
"Oh, OK!" she replied.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VrJA9LmAKy4&mode=related&search=

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Will · « **Reply #57 on:** August 05, 2007, 02:44:34 PM »

doesn't he claim that its a neck through?
is that the right technical term for a 50+ birch ply table with strings?
strikes me as weird

WezV · « **Reply #58 on:** August 05, 2007, 02:59:49 PM »

no, he is right about that - the peices of wood go right from the tip of eheadstock to the butt of the guitar so it is technically a neck that goes through!

almost like this carl thompson in that respect:
http://www.ctbasses.com/picview.php?src=lesRain.jpg

Will · « **Reply #59 on:** August 05, 2007, 03:12:58 PM »

ah right, the picture of it in his kitchen before he cut it just made me think.