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Jonny

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« on: January 08, 2008, 08:50:21 PM »
Before I joined the forum, it was just

'Oh, a Les Paul'
'Oh, a SG'

But now, it's just a SG & Les Paul banaza!

What's so good about Les Pauls and SGs? Not saying there's anything bad, but what would convince me enough to pick up a Tokai (can't say I'll be picking up a Gibson anytime soon) and throw away those two last frets and possibly sacrificing sitting down. (From saying that, I spent a good hour or so looking for a 24 fret non-existing Les Paul)

Most people (who's active) have an SG (i.e. Twinfan) or a Les Paul (i.e. ailean)

Just a general discussion about it. It interests me. I feel like I've insulted the general members of the forum but that wasn't my intention. Don't kill me..
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2008, 09:08:35 PM »
I've had both and sold both. They dont do it for me.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 09:09:34 PM »
You'll find plenty of members who aren't Gibson model fans.


If there was a strat-appreciation thread, you'd probably be overwhelmed by the supporters in that category too.


I guess it's just because Les Pauls and SGs are among the classic models of guitars. Icons, if you will.

As for the thing about number of frets. Well, if you need 24 frets, then you need 24 frets; and traditionally SGs and LPs only have 22. There's no getting round that. So maybe SGs and LPs just don't suit your playing style.

No big deal.

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EDIT: ^There we go.  :)
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2008, 09:13:50 PM »
Well sometimes I don't need 24 frets, and comfort could be better (neck and body shape) on Les Pauls. They didn't make it a law to only have one guitar. ;)

I have 5 and I don't mind more. :P
I'm a guitar player but there is an enthusiast side of me.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2008, 09:20:17 PM »
Haha.

Well obviously it's just personal preference. Personally I find my Les Paul extremely comfortable; body and neck shape.


On the enthusiast side of things, an LP is an essential part of a collection!
They look gorgeous, and unlike most modern models they just feel like a thing of beauty and have character. That's my personal attraction to them anyway.

Even strats look and feel a bit bland and boring to me personally.
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2008, 09:41:56 PM »
Quote from: Aaeder
Most people (who's active) have an SG (i.e. Twinfan) or a Les Paul (i.e. ailean)


Or both  :lol:  I have four SGs and six LPs which, quite frankly, is a stupid amount  :roll:

For me, it's all about simplicity and mahogany.  I love the tone of the wood, and I like the classic designs of Gibsons.  I also have a mahogany Flying V for the same reasons, so I guess I should have an Explorer to complete the set.  Trouble is, the Explorer is just too clunky for me to like - I do like the Firebird Studio though.

I think the more "old skool" you are, the more you like the classic designs your heros used.  For me, Slash was a MASSIVE influence on how a rock guitarist should look.  If I'd been more into U2, maybe that Explorer would be more appealing.....
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2008, 09:50:48 PM »
I've really anything but the standard two-horn guitar, I suppose it could be so much better! But, I need a guitar for that obviously.

I have too many random guitars.

An Indie, an Ibanez, a Jackson, an Encore/Vintage.

It's like the Addams Family of guitars.

I wish I went for a Tokai Les Paul than the Indie maybe, I'm starting to like the Tokai Love Rock, with a sextacular top on it. It would make my day, no doubt about it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2008, 09:58:36 PM »
the Les Paul and SG are just FANTASTIC guitars.
The LEs Paul is a classic guitar with a classic combination of woods that work incredibly well together to give a very balanced, and thick tone that simply can't be gotten out of anything else. Yes it's bulky and uncomfortable and it only has 22 frets, but play one for any amount of time and it doesn't matter because it's quite clearly the hammer of the gods.
The SG oozes cool. It's great for those who find the LP just TOO big to handle. They're usually a bit lighter, and they're far more comfortable to play due to the slender shape. The lack of maple top on this model means that it's slightly darker than a les paul, making up for any lack of wood in comparison with a thick, earthy tone. It's very much a less-is-more guitar.
In fact; the less-is-more philosophy is probably what makes these guitars stand out from the rest. There's no tremolo to fiddle with, no coil taps, no locking tuners, nuts. It's a very simply, reliable, musician-friendly format that makes you want to play!
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2008, 10:00:50 PM »
i'm not a fan of either but thats more to do with wastefull, flawed designs rather than not liking to play them.  

In fact i do quite like playing them when they are nice examples

I do like the shapes, its purely structural things that bug me
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2008, 10:03:39 PM »
Quote from: indysmith
...There's no tremolo to fiddle with...


Au contraire  ;)

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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2008, 10:10:04 PM »
I love the finishes. And no doubt sound awesome.



I wanna buy one now. :(
Are Korean ones good? Or good ol' Japanese ones are a go? I thought both were, and Chinese ones were absolute cack.
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2008, 10:15:26 PM »
Go Japanese if you can afford it, Korean if not and avoid Chinese.  That's the ranking order at the moment!

A used Japanese Tokai Love Rock should be about £400.  Cracking value for money.
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2008, 10:20:18 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2008, 10:24:46 PM »
Yep, that's a Korean model and the right price for a new one  :)

Great seller too from what I've heard.
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2008, 10:24:51 PM »
For me, Les Pauls are the perfect guitar. I love how they feel on a strap, and the sound is great. People always complain about upper fret acces but its really not that bad once you get used to it. Plus, they just look pure rock and roll :)

I do want an SG though, the only thing I dont like about most that I've tried is the neck heaviness when on a strap, but SG Jrs look so cool.
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