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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2008, 07:26:04 PM »
thx for that roo.  Cant wait for more clips!!!

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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #46 on: November 09, 2008, 07:32:29 PM »
I really enjoyed the clean sample. The heavy stuff isn't what I'm really into though, but it sounds like it would satisfy the needs of someone who is

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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2008, 07:42:00 PM »
Sounded great Roo-thouh low tones sound very clear. Like Will I prefer the clean tones.
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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2008, 07:50:28 PM »
Nice to see another convert to the fanned-fret philosophy :) Congrats to both of you, she looks a beaut!
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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #49 on: November 09, 2008, 10:44:16 PM »
One thing I can tell from that recording is how clear the pickups are, every note rings out properly. No mush whatsoever. Good choice imo, really low notes going into high output pickups would have been overpowering and lead to mush.
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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #50 on: November 10, 2008, 01:49:56 AM »
FVCK YEAH ROO!!  That clip ruled.  I think i just heard a couple Teles crack too ;)

I have been meaning to ask, and either Roo or Wez can answer this, or both.  In terms of playing chords how is it on a fanned fret?  Do you have to contort your hand more?  It just looks rather difficult if you want to attain a nice clean bar chord.  Looks absolutely awesome for single line stuff.


Also Wez, a further note on tone woods (i am obsessed - this is not to derail).  If you had a Wenge neck through (laminated Wenge/maple/ebony/maple/Wenge with Mahogany wings and a maple cap, how resonant and deep (as bright or not bright) would the tone be do you think?  If you had that same lamination what would be the best balance wood?
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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2008, 02:21:11 AM »
Opprobrium, I have not the time to test my Telecaster, nor compare it with a maple neck... But a guy very experienced in guitars told me that if maple would be 10 and mahogany would be 0, Wenge would be something alike 6... People who played a guitar with Wenge neck usually tell that it's not bright nor bassy/muddy but has a punchy sound...

*I* would make a Wenge neck only, if using laminates would be Rosewood ones(hehehehe). But I always tend to the Gibby side of force :lol:

(hope I'm not saying rubbish and Wez agree, he is the man here with exotic woods... this is what I got in my research before I bought the neck... )

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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #52 on: November 10, 2008, 02:40:38 AM »
Opprobrium, I have not the time to test my Telecaster, nor compare it with a maple neck... But a guy very experienced in guitars told me that if maple would be 10 and mahogany would be 0, Wenge would be something alike 6... People who played a guitar with Wenge neck usually tell that it's not bright nor bassy/muddy but has a punchy sound...

*I* would make a Wenge neck only, if using laminates would be Rosewood ones(hehehehe). But I always tend to the Gibby side of force :lol:

yeah, i have heard this too.  About the punchy business.  The only reason for laminating, for me at least, would be the ornamental factor.  I just like the look of the diversity of woods.  I have heard tell that an ebony strip can add a bit of deepness to the tone, but i don't know whether this is rubbish or not.  Rosewood as well, as a tonewood is nice and rich tonally, so strips of those (as long as they jumped out visually) might be an option.

I relistened to those clips Roo, and the bass drone that you were doing on the cleans was unbelievable - just perfect!
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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #53 on: November 10, 2008, 02:54:27 AM »
I relistened to those clips Roo, and the bass drone that you were doing on the cleans was unbelievable - just perfect!

In that case I would say to go in the same way... At most change the thin Wenge in the place of the big maple laminate and vice-versa

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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #54 on: November 10, 2008, 08:18:57 AM »
i have done one pice wenge necks and i have done 3 piece laminates with a thin strip of wenge and a few 5 piece laminates with a couple of strips.  Generally i use it because its stiff and dark and much more reasonably priced than ebony that size.

the 1 piece wenge neck i did was certainly punchy.  bright but not too bright. 

i tend to avoid the pure black ebony for necks as its getting harder to find in peices much bigger than fretboards... but if i was happy enough with the quality i would try it... but it gets hard to read the grain on ebony.  i do have some macasser ebony i am really looking forward to using for necks.. perfectly quartersawn and straight all the way down.  I know blackmachine and AC Guitars do ebony laminated necks with the black stuff... and you can tell that both Doug and Alan are wood perverts who wouldnt use something unsuitable

i must admit, the bass drone notes gave me a smile.   i dont build for sustain or claim that its as important as some people make out... but i do find i would struggle to do something lacking sustain... even so, this thing has ungodly amounts!


playing chords can vary.  I have done two guitars, this one with a 1.5" difference in scale lengths and a guitar with a 1" difference... with both fanning out from  around the 7th fret.   This is actually a lot more subtle than a lot on the market and i dont think it hinders playing chords... infact on the guitar i keep for myself bar chords above the 12th fret are easier than i have ever known them.  Oli made his fanned fret starting with a straight bridge which make the nut more angled and i think he said he initially struggled with some chords - but quickly adapted to them.. i will let him confirm that

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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #55 on: November 10, 2008, 11:11:10 AM »
I'll do some more clips tonight when I get home (I hope!), and this time actually concentrate on the playing, not on how ****ing LOVELY it feels to play! :)

re: chords - I find them exactly the same, if not a bit easier on this guitar. It might seem counter-intuitive, but it's a very natural shape when you put your hand in that position. Of course, it helps that the neck is Godly, too :)

Right, back to work, gotta get through the day so I can get back to playing my beauty!

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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #56 on: November 10, 2008, 11:40:04 AM »
Another stonking looking & sounding instrument there Wez ... congratulations to both  8)
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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #57 on: November 10, 2008, 11:58:42 AM »
Sorry for off-topic-ish again but all this wood talk is intriguing me..

Could you use ebony to a 1piece neck? Like just 1 solid part like a 1 piece maple neck? DO you just finish it like a normal neck or could you have it with just an oil finish or something? Would be cool a 1piece ebony T£le neck.. I know you can get rosewood from warmoth etc. but never seen ebony used as much else than fretboards or acoustic bridges etc.
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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #58 on: November 10, 2008, 12:06:33 PM »
That guitar is made of 101 proof win.

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Re: WV Baritone finally completed
« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2008, 12:09:14 PM »
Sorry for off-topic-ish again but all this wood talk is intriguing me..

Could you use ebony to a 1piece neck? Like just 1 solid part like a 1 piece maple neck? DO you just finish it like a normal neck or could you have it with just an oil finish or something? Would be cool a 1piece ebony T£le neck.. I know you can get rosewood from warmoth etc. but never seen ebony used as much else than fretboards or acoustic bridges etc.

Warmoth did have a run of all ebony necks a while back but I haven's seen one recently.
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