Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Ian Price on March 21, 2009, 03:00:28 PM
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Just paid a visit to guitarvillage to help my nephew buy his first amp (a Laney solid state affair). I got there a little while before he was due to arrive so I could have a look around. I came across a tele that I must admit I think I am now in love with but can't afford!!!
Here it is:
http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/product-detail_huge.asp?id=7589&catid=71&quantity=1&manid=125&product=Fender+Telecaster+%28USA%29+Custom+Shop+%2750s+Top+Bound+Esquire+Relic%2C+Lake+Placid+Blue%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Tweed+Case
I think it's a bit of an unusual colour for a tele - it's also pretty light and acoustically sounds sooo good. Didn't get the time to plug it in but may take another look in a few days!
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Awesome!! :D
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I absolutely LOVE those top bound Esquires. They were a limited run for last year. Sounds Great had a black one in stock for a while which I drooled over. Awesome thing.
Here's a great vid about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJEt-KO4ShQ
Plus the specs: http://www.fender.com/customshop/instruments/search.php?partno=9233000023
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Ooh, that's nice! It's even a 9.5" radius! :D
(And having looked at the specs, a nice choice of colours! I wish they gave more colour choice for cheaper models.)
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Ian, get it, you deserve it.
That is what credit cards are for...
go on, you will, you will, you will.....
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That is indeed one lovely guitar - and as you said, with a 9.5" radius ; as playable and comfy as it looks.
It's the sort of guitar, that if I was starting over completely again ( but not pursuing Jazz ) - I would buy that as my 'signature' guitar for life.
The added minimalism of it being an Esquire,
Tarnished brass 50s saddles / bridge ( sustain city ! )
String through Body ( nice )
Tastefully 'reliced'
Nice colour scheme.
It would sway me into debt if needed.
So don't ask me to persuade you not to buy it ... :wink:
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Ooh, that's nice! It's even a 9.5" radius! :D
(And having looked at the specs, a nice choice of colours! I wish they gave more colour choice for cheaper models.)
Why do people like 9.5" radius? I think that feels horrid! 7.25" is way comfier! I know people say 9.5" is better for playing lead in the higher frets but 7.25" feels like heaven to me. When I ordered my Legra half the emphasis was "anything but a 9.5" neck!"
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Ooh, that's nice! It's even a 9.5" radius! :D
(And having looked at the specs, a nice choice of colours! I wish they gave more colour choice for cheaper models.)
Why do people like 9.5" radius? I think that feels horrid! 7.25" is way comfier!
For me ( who likes a really low, slinky action all the way across the fret board ) - the 7.25 radius forced me to have the top 'e' and 'b' strings set a bit higher than I wanted, to avoid 'choke off' on wide bends .
I gigged with a 7.25 radius Strat for years, but at the time, all that adrenaline pumping - and my heavier 'touch' during those times made it less important. As my technique / touch became more 'economic' - it became an issue, and remains so today. Ideally top and bottom 'e' about 1mm off the top of 12th fret - and not choke off when bending. I could not achieve that on a 7.25" radius, however well set up and fret dressed.
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Ooh, that's nice! It's even a 9.5" radius! :D
(And having looked at the specs, a nice choice of colours! I wish they gave more colour choice for cheaper models.)
Why do people like 9.5" radius? I think that feels horrid! 7.25" is way comfier! I know people say 9.5" is better for playing lead in the higher frets but 7.25" feels like heaven to me. When I ordered my Legra half the emphasis was "anything but a 9.5" neck!"
In a way I almost agree with you, I do like to feel the curve of the board, but with 7.25" I can't bend strings without fretting out. 9.5" or 10" is perfect for me, I'm fine with the 12" on all my Gibson types, but I don't like anything flatter than that. I'm not even keen on the Warmoth compound radius 10" to 16".
Having said that, 7.25" tends to go hand-in-hand with skinny vintage frets, which is a big part of the problem. I think I might be able to live with 7.25" and bigger frets, but I've never had the chance to try it.
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Ooh, that's nice! It's even a 9.5" radius! :D
(And having looked at the specs, a nice choice of colours! I wish they gave more colour choice for cheaper models.)
Why do people like 9.5" radius? I think that feels horrid! 7.25" is way comfier! I know people say 9.5" is better for playing lead in the higher frets but 7.25" feels like heaven to me. When I ordered my Legra half the emphasis was "anything but a 9.5" neck!"
In a way I almost agree with you, I do like to feel the curve of the board, but with 7.25" I can't bend strings without fretting out. 9.5" or 10" is perfect for me, I'm fine with the 12" on all my Gibson types, but I don't like anything flatter than that. I'm not even keen on the Warmoth compound radius 10" to 16".
Having said that, 7.25" tends to go hand-in-hand with skinny vintage frets, which is a big part of the problem. I think I might be able to live with 7.25" and bigger frets, but I've never had the chance to try it.
Yeah I guess its definitely a case of different strokes for different folks....I know when playing Jeff Buckley stuff chording arpeggios in the upper frets is a pain in the but on a 9.5 while it feels so easy on a 7.25
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Ian, get it, you deserve it.
That is what credit cards are for...
go on, you will, you will, you will.....
Haha - I'm sure I deserve it! I can't justify whacking £2k on a credit card though! This may well be the one that finally convinces me to get rid of my old old tele and buy a new old tele.
Seriously though, I have thought about selling my old tele a few times in the last year. Kind of a three strikes and you're out rule. It's now 3 strikes. All I need to do now is pluck up the courage and hope I get near to £2k for it!!!
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This thread has just made me rip out the neck 'bucker from my CV Squier and hunt down an Esquire wiring diagram.
Ian - what have you done?????!!!!!!
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Not usually a big fan of blue OR relicd guitars, but in this instance I think this looks awesome. I want an esquire now :lol:
Question - on an esquire, what does the switch do?
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Question - on an esquire, what does the switch do?
Basically in one position you get the pickup with an added capacitor for a "bassy" tone, in the middle position you get the pickup on its own (without the tone control), and in the third position you get the pickup with the tone control functioning.
Or something like that, it's a bit odd...
I think these Custom Shop ones are wired a little differently, though.
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Did your nephew have any comments on it? I wonder what new players think when they see old beat up guitars like this.
Do they see the vibe, or an old beat up guitar? heheh!
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Did your nephew have any comments on it? I wonder what new players think when they see old beat up guitars like this.
Do they see the vibe, or an old beat up guitar? heheh!
My nephew is 7! He loved it and thought it was an 'old' guitar.
I really do think I might buy it but need to sell the old tele first. If anyone on here buys it before me I will be very, very unhappy!
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This thread has just made me rip out the neck 'bucker from my CV Squier and hunt down an Esquire wiring diagram.
Ian - what have you done?????!!!!!!
Sorry Dave!
The other bonus on the Esquire is that any pickup retrofit will be approximately half the price!
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If anyone on here buys it before me I willbe very, very unhappy!
I promise I won't! :)
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haha I'd have it if I had a spare 2 grand :P
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If anyone on here buys it before me I willbe very, very unhappy!
I promise I won't! :)
If you do, I'll come along to next London meet and 'borrow' it from you!!
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If anyone on here buys it before me I willbe very, very unhappy!
I promise I won't! :)
If you do, I'll come along to next London meet and 'borrow' it from you!!
We'll see about that, are you bigger than me? (most people are :( )
:wink:
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If anyone on here buys it before me I willbe very, very unhappy!
I promise I won't! :)
If you do, I'll come along to next London meet and 'borrow' it from you!!
We'll see about that, are you bigger than me? (most people are :( )
:wink:
I probably am if most people are - 6'2" although I'm a lover, not a fighter!
Anyway - I have put my tele up on eBay, my mind is made up and I'll be looking at putting a deposit down on the tele soon.
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Haha, I'm only 5'6" (but I have a very low centre of gravity, so like a Weeble, I wobble but I don't fall down... :P )
Good luck, hope you get it! :)
I have noticed that GV don't seem to be turning over so many guitars on their site recently - the recession bites, I guess.
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I have noticed that GV don't seem to be turning over so many guitars on their site recently - the recession bites, I guess.
I have spotted that as well. The CS strat I was interested in took an age to sell - I think about 8 months. I'm hoping they don't sell the tele until I have some £ in my pocket! I think it would be rude not to ask for a discount as well!
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Haha, I'm only 5'6" (but I have a very low centre of gravity, so like a Weeble, I wobble but I don't fall down... :P )
There's no shame in being 5"6, Matthew Bellamy is 5"6, Bono is 5"6, Thom Yorke is 5"6, and I'm 5"6.
Your officially part of the coolest club on earth!
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Haha, I'm only 5'6" (but I have a very low centre of gravity, so like a Weeble, I wobble but I don't fall down... :P )
There's no shame in being 5"6, Matthew Bellamy is 5"6, Bono is 5"6, Thom Yorke is 5"6, and I'm 5"6.
Your officially part of the coolest club on earth!
I get the feeling I'm being outnumbered!
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No, don't let these little people get to you. Six ft plus is still cool.
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Best of luck getting the Esquire Ian :)
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Anyone going to make an offer on this one ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chvzL13_w9w&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chvzL13_w9w&feature=related)
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Best of luck getting the Esquire Ian :)
Cheers Dave - I'm now going through the 'god I hope they don't sell it before I get some cash' phase. This is the most terrible feeling for a guitar lover!
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Anyone going to make an offer on this one ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chvzL13_w9w&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chvzL13_w9w&feature=related)
Crikey!!! Thirty five grand!!!
It's nice though...
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Haha, I'm only 5'6" (but I have a very low centre of gravity, so like a Weeble, I wobble but I don't fall down... :P )
There's no shame in being 5"6, Matthew Bellamy is 5"6, Bono is 5"6, Thom Yorke is 5"6, and I'm 5"6.
Your officially part of the coolest club on earth!
Haha, no shame at all.... but I don't want Bono in my club! :P
Anyone going to make an offer on this one ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chvzL13_w9w&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chvzL13_w9w&feature=related)
Wow, it's bizarre seeing guitars on Antiques Roadshow. They should get them on the UK version!
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Haha, I'm only 5'6" (but I have a very low centre of gravity, so like a Weeble, I wobble but I don't fall down... :P )
There's no shame in being 5"6, Matthew Bellamy is 5"6, Bono is 5"6, Thom Yorke is 5"6, and I'm 5"6.
Your officially part of the coolest club on earth!
I'm willing to let the thread title slide if only to point out that Bono is in no way part of any cool club on this Earth whatsoever!
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I'm willing to let the thread title slide if only to point out that Bono is in no way part of any cool club on this Earth whatsoever!
:lol:
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I'm willing to let the thread title slide if only to point out that Bono is in no way part of any cool club on this Earth whatsoever!
:lol:
Yeah...but without no one to sit in between teh Muse and Radiohead fanboys only madness will ensue!
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Best of luck getting the Esquire Ian :)
Just got a semi approval (which in my book is a full approval) to buy so will be putting a deposit on tomorrow (fingers crossed)!
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Get in there!
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Get the deposit on, worry about the balance later!!!!
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Get the deposit on, worry about the balance later!!!!
+1!!!
(What am I saying? :lol: )
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Get the deposit on, worry about the balance later!!!!
Shop is closed for the day now. Will be calling in the morning!
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Well done Ian, that Esquire looks great.
Can't wait to hear some sound clips :D
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Got to say Ian,
If I was going to spend that money I would want to get it plugged in and give it a good testing before I made any commitment to buy. It looks a nice one good luck.
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Got to say Ian,
If I was going to spend that money I would want to get it plugged in and give it a good testing before I made any commitment to buy. It looks a nice one good luck.
Cheers mate - I will be giving it a try plugged in before buying. I'm 100% sure it will be fine - it's the acoustic tone I look for in an electric before even plugging it in, this one has a very nice acoustic tone. My current tele is quite thin compared to it.
I'm convinced that good acoustic tone nearly always equals a great electric tone. Am I wrong?
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Haha, I'm only 5'6" (but I have a very low centre of gravity, so like a Weeble, I wobble but I don't fall down... :P )
There's no shame in being 5"6, Matthew Bellamy is 5"6, Bono is 5"6, Thom Yorke is 5"6, and I'm 5"6.
Your officially part of the coolest club on earth!
I'm willing to let the thread title slide if only to point out that Bono is in no way part of any cool club on this Earth whatsoever!
ZING!
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Got to say Ian,
If I was going to spend that money I would want to get it plugged in and give it a good testing before I made any commitment to buy. It looks a nice one good luck.
Cheers mate - I will be giving it a try plugged in before buying. I'm 100% sure it will be fine - it's the acoustic tone I look for in an electric before even plugging it in, this one has a very nice acoustic tone. My current tele is quite thin compared to it.
I'm convinced that good acoustic tone nearly always equals a great electric tone. Am I wrong?
Provided that the electronics (incl pickups) are okay, then yeah I'd agree!
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Provided that the electronics (incl pickups) are okay, then yeah I'd agree!
Good point Roo!
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Sounds exciting, I hope you like it! :D
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Cheers mate - I will be giving it a try plugged in before buying. I'm 100% sure it will be fine - it's the acoustic tone I look for in an electric before even plugging it in, this one has a very nice acoustic tone. My current tele is quite thin compared to it.
I'm convinced that good acoustic tone nearly always equals a great electric tone. Am I wrong?
This is a tele we're talking about, though, and they never sound good :lol: (I kid! I'm not a fan of teles, but that looks like a really nice example. I think it's some of the best relic-ing that I've seen, and it's a nice colour, too)
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Fender really do have the nicest Blue finishes outside of PRS Blue Matteo, don't they?
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Any news Ian? Wrangled a deal?
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Any news Ian? Wrangled a deal?
Just called them. £100.00 discount, deposit on and pick up at the weekend. Just hope my other tele sells now!
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Wahey! Result! :)
Worst case, you can trade your Tele in?
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Wahey! Result! :)
Worst case, you can trade your Tele in?
I must admit that I didn't ask them that! I tried it before with them and they only offered about £1300 for it so I think that's a no go!
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Fair enough!
They've updated their website already ;)
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They've updated their website already ;)
That's very efficient of them! Just need to speak to my lovely lady now and tell her the deal is done!
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Nice one, Ian! :)
It is impressive how quickly they update their website.... but a bit depressing when you've been watching something and it suddenly goes "out of stock".
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It is impressive how quickly they update their website.... but a bit depressing when you've been watching something and it suddenly goes "out of stock".
It is indeed impressive. I know the feeling of depression about something going out of stock as well. The CS strat I had my eye on for a while went out of stock whilst I was trying to decide whether or not to sell my tele. I was very gutted when it did go as I knew I should have gone for it. I learned not to make the same mistake twice!
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Nice one - not quite my cup of tea, but I've been watching with great interest - and with fingers crossed after you decided to go for it yesterday... :D
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Congrats Ian
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Nice one, Ian! :)
It is impressive how quickly they update their website.... but a bit depressing when you've been watching something and it suddenly goes "out of stock".
Would this have anything to do with a Gibson 339 Philly?
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Nice one, Ian! :)
It is impressive how quickly they update their website.... but a bit depressing when you've been watching something and it suddenly goes "out of stock".
Would this have anything to do with a Gibson 339 Philly?
Well, errrr.... no. But that's another story.
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Uh-oh... sounds like the cat's out :lol:
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Uh-oh... sounds like the cat's out :lol:
Godammit, get back in that bag, Tibbles!
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<whistles and slopes off out of sight>
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So is this one of those "secrets" that "every b*gger one has been talking to already knows about"?
I'd like it noted that I didn't say anything until it looked like the owner of the "secret" was admitting to something :lol:
(btw we're in grave danger of hi-jacking a very important tele-based thread here - sorry Ian! :D)
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(btw we're in grave danger of hi-jacking a very important tele-based thread here - sorry Ian! :D)
No worries Andy - I'm intrigued!
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Congrats Ian. Looks a beaut !
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Sorry guys, i slightly derailed the thread there!
The Esquire looks fantastic Ian! I love bound teles, although not really into relics. Enjoy it, and what is the tele you're selling?
Its ok Philly, i've been watching Guitar Village to see when they go back in stock too.
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So is this one of those "secrets" that "every b*gger one has been talking to already knows about"?
I'd like it noted that I didn't say anything until it looked like the owner of the "secret" was admitting to something :lol:
(btw we're in grave danger of hi-jacking a very important tele-based thread here - sorry Ian! :D)
Yeah, yeah, OK.... I got a 339. :oops:
I've been keeping it quiet due to the recent controversy over "NGD" threads. And the fact that I failed to keep my "no new guitars in 2009" resolution. But Dave, Andy, Derek (and those who hung around in the pub longest after the London get-together) already know about it.
They say confession is good for the soul....
Sorry for the hijack, Ian!
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They say confession is good for the soul....
Is it now? :roll:
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A new 339 :D
Start the thread Philly!
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A new 339 :D
Start the thread Philly!
Its true. The public needs to know!
(Especially those of us who want to buy one)
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Yeah, yeah, OK.... I got a 339. :oops:
Sorry for the hijack, Ian!
Great news Philly - no worries about the hijack as I know you've been hankering after a 339 for a while. You should post some pics up (or PM them to me if you don't want to!!!)
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what is the tele you're selling?
It's a mid 70s tele. I have thought long and hard about it over the last few months and finally decided to let it go (although sadly I made the decision to sell after I had Jonathan do a really good refret on it). At least that means I can sell it safe in the knowledge that it is playable!
It is a nice looking tele but just a little too heavy and too thick on the finish for me to really enjoy playing it - it turned into a bit of a chore and I found that I was always favouring my strat and LP and seldom touched the tele. For me these were signs that it really had to be replaced with something I really liked rather than something I would have to grow to like. I thought about BKPing it up a few times but decided against it due to needing to BKP my LP.
I may regret the decision later on but at this moment, and maybe it's due to impending NGD giddyness, I really think it is absolutely the right decision to sell and replace with the CS Esquire (which if you hadn't got the impression already is more suited to me i.e. lighter and has a thinner finish!)
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OK, thread started.
And back on topic, I'm looking forward to hearing more about your Esquire as soon as you get it, Ian! :)
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^ Me too :)
Once my scratchplate arrives, I'll let you know how my Esquire has turned out as well ;)
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^ Me too :)
Once my scratchplate arrives, I'll let you know how my Esquire has turned out as well ;)
yeah - do that. You'll have to get some photos up as well.
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Will do. I've been messing with the 'c--ked wah' cap over th last few days. Think I've got it sorted now with a 0.015uf.
This thing now reeks of Rev Willie G!
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Just picked the tele up. Will be playing it quite a bit tonight and posting some pics up tomorrow for those that are interested. Early impressions are that CS fenders are very nice indeed.
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Just picked the tele up. Will be playing it quite a bit tonight and posting some pics up tomorrow for those that are interested. Early impressions are that CS fenders are very nice indeed.
Definately interested here !
I hope Dave posts some shots of his Esquire 'conversion' too . It was interesting to read about the tone cap value .
Nice one chaps . :D
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must be the season for Esquire conversions - I've got a single bridge pickup in my '72 Tele Custom and am planing on a new scratchplate to make it look right - the resonance with just the one pickup is noticeably better. The guitar just screams.
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Just picked the tele up. Will be playing it quite a bit tonight and posting some pics up tomorrow for those that are interested. Early impressions are that CS fenders are very nice indeed.
Come on Ian- pics and a review please!!! :D
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Come on Ian- pics and a review please!!! :D
Sorry mate - here's a pic with a tiny review. Been playing too much to think about posting stuff!
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh267/IanPPrice/DSCN6924.jpg)
The guitar is very well made and feels very sturdy (I think most teles do though). I don't normally go for a relic look but must admit that although this one is relic'd it's not too over the top. Weight is around 7.4lbs and well balanced - my old tele weighs in at 8.2lbs so the difference is noticeable.
The single pickup is a bit of a monster - it's a SD BG Esquire. Output is much, much higher than I'm used to at (I think) 15k. It took me a while to get used to it - I even had to play with the EQ in my amp and I very rarely do this! After about 30 mins worth of experimentation I found some very decent sounds. I think I'll need to take longer on pedal settings though as my OCD sounded a bit 'farty' - not sure why, it might just be that my ears took a bashing for a while. I'm more impressed with the drive sounds through my ampo than the cleans - this may again need me to spend a while fiddling around until I get a nicer clean sound.
The frets are much bigger than I'm used to - loaded with 6105s I can really tell the difference between the vintge style frets on my strat and this. It took me a few hours to adjust to the difference - the biggest issue was that I was fretting too hard and pushing notes out of tune. Learning to be a bit more light fingered now.
I am very impressed with it. The CS stuff I had tried before this (aside from a 60s CS strat) left me a little unconvinced and although I'm not a convert yet I think my next Fender, if I'm ever allowed another guitar, may well be a CS.
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I like the sound a tele makes but hate the look !! Not sure about the sound on a strat but they do look better !
Thinks!! -- "I bet I get a roasting for that comment."
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I like the sound a tele makes but hate the look !! Not sure about the sound on a strat but they do look better !
Thinks!! -- "I bet I get a roasting for that comment."
Not from me mate. I'm a Fender man and love the look of Teles and Strats, others don't like them so much. Would be a boring place if everyone agreed on everything!
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A stunning piece of kit there Ian. :)
The whole Esquire vibe ( stripped down and ready to stun ) is in many ways the ultimate in un-diluted guitar lore for me . The guitar that started this whole shooting match off - and with a killer pickup nestling in that lovely 50's type 3 brass saddle bridge.
I can see ( and imagine the sound ) of why that is so hard to put down !
It has always made me smile, when I hear or read that the most brutal guitar has to have humbuckers - and look like a fashion accessory for Darth Vadar. In truth, to play a Tele bridge pickup through a huge clean Fender Twin at considerable volume is absolutely stunning ( quite literally ).
:D
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This is a very nice guitar! :D
I just love it!
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Glad you like it Ian, welcome to the club!
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That looks absolutely great-congratulations.
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Great stuff Ian!
I think you'll find that you won't get a great clean sound out of that guitar. That pickup is very hot and fat, and played clean will probably be too thick sounding with loads of mids? This will be why your OCD sounds 'farty' too, you're suffering from "mids overload" :lol:
I'd try using more 'neutral' settings on your amp and pedals to really let the guitar shine through :D
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Cheers Dave - will try 'neutralising' the settings tonight and see how I get on. I kind of always knew that the clean sound out of my apached strat would always be nicer. The dirty sound out of the esquire is awesome though and none of my other guitars can get close to it!
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I'm not surprised - it's built for a bit more gain I think ;) Gives you some nice variety compared to your Strat :)
My Esquire scratchplate should arrive any day, so once it has I'll get a get a pic up :D (groan...)
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My Esquire scratchplate should arrive any day, so once it has I'll get a get a pic up :D (groan...)
Good stuff - what pick up are you gonna go with?
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I'm leaving the upgraded (non-BKP) in there. It sounds excellent so I'm sticking with it :D
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I'm late seeing this, but that looks awesome, Ian! :D
The colour's a bit lighter than it looked on the GV website, even better I think.
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I'm late seeing it as well - glad it worked out ok.
Not quite my sort of colour, by I'm sure she's a beauty to play :D
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I'm late seeing this, but that looks awesome, Ian! :D
The colour's a bit lighter than it looked on the GV website, even better I think.
Cheers Philly - the guitar village website pic was indeed much darker and I agree that it looks better a little lighter.
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In truth, to play a Tele bridge pickup through a huge clean Fender Twin at considerable volume is absolutely stunning ( quite literally ).
:D
Oh dear - that's now mad me want a Fender Twin. I do doubt that I would be able to play it at volume at home though! Who's got one that I can try out :)
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In truth, to play a Tele bridge pickup through a huge clean Fender Twin at considerable volume is absolutely stunning ( quite literally ).
:D
Oh dear - that's now mad me want a Fender Twin. I do doubt that I would be able to play it at volume at home though! Who's got one that I can try out :)
I have one you could try ( if you could TELEport to West Yorkshire). :)
If you ever do get the Fender Twin G.A.S. though, mine is still for sale. Too big and powerfull for smooth 'After Dinner' Jazz - now that's all I study / play. It does have a 25 watt / 100watt switch at the back, but I needed an amp I could carry easily and a guitar case on public transport if needed.
If you ever do get to own a Fender Twin ( under any circumstance ) Try replacing the Quad of 6L6 valves with a quad of N.O.S 7581As . Same family of valve - but even more headroom and clean 'soundstage' - as they say at Watford Valves. I always think that Jan / Phillips 7581A are to 6L6 valves - what 6550 are to EL34s.
My resolve to first learn the guitar / conversion to Blues music - was due to listening to a local Pub Blues band back in 1978 - where the guitarist was playing a battered Tele through a 100 watt Fender Twin. :)
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In truth, to play a Tele bridge pickup through a huge clean Fender Twin at considerable volume is absolutely stunning ( quite literally ).
:D
Oh dear - that's now mad me want a Fender Twin. I do doubt that I would be able to play it at volume at home though! Who's got one that I can try out :)
I have one you could try ( if you could TELEport to West Yorkshire). :)
If you ever do get the Fender Twin G.A.S. though, mine is still for sale. Too big and powerfull for smooth 'After Dinner' Jazz - now that's all I study / play. It does have a 25 watt / 100watt switch at the back, but I needed an amp I could carry easily and a guitar case on public transport if needed.
If you ever do get to own a Fender Twin ( under any circumstance ) Try replacing the Quad of 6L6 valves with a quad of N.O.S 7581As . Same family of valve - but even more headroom and clean 'soundstage' - as they say at Watford Valves. I always think that Jan / Phillips 7581A are to 6L6 valves - what 6550 are to EL34s.
My resolve to first learn the guitar / conversion to Blues music - was due to listening to a local Pub Blues band back in 1978 - where the guitarist was playing a battered Tele through a 100 watt Fender Twin. :)
Bit off-topic, but how do you think 7581As would sound in place of 6L6s in a 5150/5150-II? I know it's tonally a totally different ball-park from a Twin, but me likes clean headroom!
Roo
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In truth, to play a Tele bridge pickup through a huge clean Fender Twin at considerable volume is absolutely stunning ( quite literally ).
:D
Oh dear - that's now mad me want a Fender Twin. I do doubt that I would be able to play it at volume at home though! Who's got one that I can try out :)
Peach have got one - used '57 Twin reissue - £1399
http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/Used_Fender_57_Twin_Reissue__1399.html
(http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/57twin.jpg)
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In truth, to play a Tele bridge pickup through a huge clean Fender Twin at considerable volume is absolutely stunning ( quite literally ).
:D
Oh dear - that's now mad me want a Fender Twin. I do doubt that I would be able to play it at volume at home though! Who's got one that I can try out :)
I have one you could try ( if you could TELEport to West Yorkshire). :)
If you ever do get the Fender Twin G.A.S. though, mine is still for sale. Too big and powerfull for smooth 'After Dinner' Jazz - now that's all I study / play. It does have a 25 watt / 100watt switch at the back, but I needed an amp I could carry easily and a guitar case on public transport if needed.
If you ever do get to own a Fender Twin ( under any circumstance ) Try replacing the Quad of 6L6 valves with a quad of N.O.S 7581As . Same family of valve - but even more headroom and clean 'soundstage' - as they say at Watford Valves. I always think that Jan / Phillips 7581A are to 6L6 valves - what 6550 are to EL34s.
My resolve to first learn the guitar / conversion to Blues music - was due to listening to a local Pub Blues band back in 1978 - where the guitarist was playing a battered Tele through a 100 watt Fender Twin. :)
Bit off-topic, but how do you think 7581As would sound in place of 6L6s in a 5150/5150-II? I know it's tonally a totally different ball-park from a Twin, but me likes clean headroom!
Roo
I think you would be pleasantly surprised - not only at the crisper and 'bigger' tonal attributes, but also the fact that each 7581A is capable of pushing 35 watts as opposed to the usual 25 watts per valve. The only drawback for some would be that they do not go into saturation / clipping at all easily - so unless you want to blow the back wall of the room off trying , for distortion - you will have to go the Dave Gilmour route - and put the distortion 'colour' at the front end / saturate the pre-amp stages , and treat the 7581A output stage as a big ( and mostly transparent ) wall of sound. Of course your 5150 will probably have the output circuitry designed for more punishment / clipping than my 'Twin Amp' . At least on the 'Twin Amp' this is compensated for by the 25 watt / 100 watt switch, which sounds not much quieter at full tilt, but does make the output stage more 'saggy' at a similar volume setting.
I also noticed that whilst using 7581As ; on the amp bias / quad balance adjustments on the rear of my Twin - I had to adjust the pots as far as possible to bring the current draw into line with 'recommended values' - whereas even the mighty 6L6GC only needed a mid point setting.
Worthy of note also is that I gather it could be an expensive mistake to fit the clean ( but much more capable of sag / saturation ) short bottle 6L6WGB ( as I used in my Laney LH50R-II and I gather the Fender Bassman uses them as well ) - as I am informed that the circuit conditions / optimum Bias / Anode ( plate ) voltage for a 6L6GC or 7581A can be damaging to a 6L6WGB. Obviously if the amp techs here on the forum wish to confirm / deny this, it would be interesting to read. :)
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In truth, to play a Tele bridge pickup through a huge clean Fender Twin at considerable volume is absolutely stunning ( quite literally ).
:D
Oh dear - that's now mad me want a Fender Twin. I do doubt that I would be able to play it at volume at home though! Who's got one that I can try out :)
Peach have got one - used '57 Twin reissue - £1399
http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/Used_Fender_57_Twin_Reissue__1399.html
(http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/57twin.jpg)
I was thinking more of the notoriously relentlessly clean 70s 'Silverface ' amps - or ( in second place ) the current 100 Watt 'Twin Amp' for ultimate clarity at the highest volumes. I gather the Tweed versions of the 100 watter - or the 65 watt Fender 'Twin Reverb' re-issues are somewhat 'softer' in tone when pushed. :)
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In truth, to play a Tele bridge pickup through a huge clean Fender Twin at considerable volume is absolutely stunning ( quite literally ).
:D
Oh dear - that's now mad me want a Fender Twin. I do doubt that I would be able to play it at volume at home though! Who's got one that I can try out :)
Peach have got one - used '57 Twin reissue - £1399
http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/Used_Fender_57_Twin_Reissue__1399.html
(http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/57twin.jpg)
I was thinking more of the notoriously relentlessly clean 70s 'Silverface ' amps - or ( in second place ) the current 100 Watt 'Twin Amp' for ultimate clarity at the highest volumes. I gather the Tweed versions of the 100 watter - of the 65 watt Fender 'Twin Reverb' re-issues are somewhat 'softer' in tone when pushed. :)
Cheers for the GAS inducing replies guys! My previous experience of Fender amps is that they are extremely loud - I don't think I could get away with that considering Jane told me that my new tele and 5 watt combo were too loud!
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In truth, to play a Tele bridge pickup through a huge clean Fender Twin at considerable volume is absolutely stunning ( quite literally ).
:D
Oh dear - that's now mad me want a Fender Twin. I do doubt that I would be able to play it at volume at home though! Who's got one that I can try out :)
Peach have got one - used '57 Twin reissue - £1399
http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/Used_Fender_57_Twin_Reissue__1399.html
(http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/57twin.jpg)
I was thinking more of the notoriously relentlessly clean 70s 'Silverface ' amps - or ( in second place ) the current 100 Watt 'Twin Amp' for ultimate clarity at the highest volumes. I gather the Tweed versions of the 100 watter - of the 65 watt Fender 'Twin Reverb' re-issues are somewhat 'softer' in tone when pushed. :)
Cheers for the GAS inducing replies guys! My previous experience of Fender amps is that they are extremely loud - I don't think I could get away with that considering Jane told me that my new tele and 5 watt combo were too loud!
Yes, put that way - a Fender Twin would constitute " reasonable grounds for divorce ".
Meanwhile I am sure that guitar sounds great through just about anything ! :D
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Meanwhile I am sure that guitar sounds great through just about anything ! :D
I'm sure it does although sadly as long as it's me playing it won't sound that great :x. Will bring it along to whatever meet happens next so I can hear what it sounds like with a proper player.
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Apologies for resurrecting an 'old' thread. Just took the pickguard off of the esquire and found that it is routed for a neck single coil.
I'm not going to say I am going to do it but, if I did, what impact would putting a neck pup have on the tone of the guitar. I've read somewhere that a neck pup would make it sound less airy. Is this true or a load of bs?
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The magnetic pull of the neck pickup will have a slight damping effect on the strings' vibration, so I guess in theory it may make the guitar sound marginally less "airy".
But it's not going to suddenly turn a great sounding guitar into a bad one.
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Cheers Philly. That might make me think twice! Actually, it has. A few weeks ago I said that I wasn't getting on with my strat and was considering a new neck for it. I think it's more than just the neck now and that the overall sound of the guitar is not what I'm looking for.
This then made me think of getting a neck pup for the esquire so I could get some warm jazzy-ish type tones and some nice big chords from it. The next question is if I did this is there a way of retaining the esquire circuit but also wiring the neck and bridge together for a mixed tone?
Finally, about the strat. It may well be appearing in seconds out in the next few days. I've persevered long enough and have been exclusively playing the esquire for the last few weeks.
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You could get a 4-way switch and have:
Bridge pickup as it is now
Bridge and middle
Esquire wah tone
Neck pickup only
or a five way with:
Bridge pickup as it is now
Bridge and middle
Esquire wah tone
Neck pickup only
Bridge and neck in series
If you go for a neck pickup, remember to buy a new scratchplate and not chop a hole in the one you've already got ;)
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Bridge pickup as it is now
Bridge and middle
Esquire wah tone
Neck pickup only
Bridge and neck in series
That sounds good.
If you go for a neck pickup, remember to buy a new scratchplate and not chop a hole in the one you've already got ;)
:lol: :lol:
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Just saw that pic of your esquire again, Ian. I still really like it :) Gonna have to play a few before I decide on my next guitar! Its either this or an SG, big difference between them though.
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It's a great guitar Tom. I've never played a SG before so couldn't comment on differences although I'm sure there are many!
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Just saw that pic of your esquire again, Ian. I still really like it :) Gonna have to play a few before I decide on my next guitar! Its either this or an SG, big difference between them though.
My two main guitars are a tele and a sg, i love them both. Such a different feel between them though, but it's never a struggle going from one to the other. Tis a hard choice between the two though!
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I noticed that my Tele was punchier with more resonance with the neck pickup removed - as such, I've got no plans to put one back in right now as the guitar absolutely screams right now.
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My two main guitars are a tele and a sg, i love them both. Such a different feel between them though, but it's never a struggle going from one to the other. Tis a hard choice between the two though!
Yeah I really dont know what to do haha. The main thing putting me off teles is that I always see them as cheap guitars for some reason. I've always preferred Gibson style but I allready have 2 Les Pauls.. Will have to play a few I suppose and compare them to SGs in the same price range..
Seeing that single bridge pickup esquire type thing in Twinfans thread has definitely rekindled my interest in a tele though :)
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Go for a custom Tom - they're double edge bound bodies with rosewood board. Before I got one I wasn't at all convinced by the look, but it's one of my favourite guitars now - looks anything but "cheap" (I know what you mean though). Mine's black, sits very nicely next to my black Les Paul type thing :D (except the off-white bindings/scatchplates clash! :lol:)
Can't really comment on the "esquire" bit - never tried it - I do have an old squier I'm going to do it to one day probably with a Piledriver, but I like the neck pickup on my teles too much (the Yardbird neck is especially nice)...
I know people swear that taking the neck pickup out makes a difference, but I wonder if it's more of a "focussing the mind" kind of thing because you've only got one pickup? Seeing as I've not tried it though :roll:... (and bear in mind that I can't hear a difference in tone between a strat trem bridge screwed down or floating... :lol:)
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Go for a custom Tom - they're double edge bound bodies with rosewood board.
i think the double binding looks cool, but personally i prefer the approach i am taking on twinfans. Single binding on the front with some great wood on the back.
This allows for some modern home comforts which really help raise the tele above a 'cheap slab' guitar and add a custom feel.
My personal preference is to go for a larger roundover on the back with a deep, quite organically shaped belly cut and a reshaped/contoured heel section - i like them comfy!
on TF's we are keeping it simpler than that to retain more of a traditional tele feel - but its still getting a warmoth/suhr style contoured heel (still uses a neckplate but the heel gets thinner and blends into the cutaway a little more)
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^ what Wez said :lol:
A good Tele is a VERY good guitar indeed.
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I wish I could afford a custom guitar - was going to go that route with a WezV SG but I cant even afford the deposit at the minute :(
Or do you mean a tele custom model thing? :oops:
I love bound teles, especially black ones with white binding or creamy white blonde type ones with black binding. Natural wood back would look very nice though :)
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Yep, that sounds good Wez/TF... you want a "custom custom" Tom! :lol:
EDIT: You posted while I was typing Tom - yep the bound teles (and you're describing my main one) are called "custom tele", or were, anyway...
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A good Tele is a VERY good guitar indeed.
+1. This is what is making me selling my other guitars an easier thing to deal with. I strung the Esquire with a new set of 10's last night and it was sounding very good indeed (if you don't factor in my playing!).
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I just had a look at those customs, I like the look apart from the horrible bridge cover thing.
I liked the last American Standard (I think) tele I played, I reckon they're better than strats anyway!
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I just had a look at those customs, I like the look apart from the horrible bridge cover thing.
I liked the last American Standard (I think) tele I played, I reckon they're better than strats anyway!
Do you mean the "ashtray"? It comes off, for use as an, er, ashtray! (None of my teles came with theirs).
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The ash tray for the Esquire is, and always will be, in the case. I'm not a smoker so have no other use for it!
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Here's a Telecaster I'm working on at the moment.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/Malcomez/Telecaster3.jpg)
Giggles.
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Is that one of those alabaster tele bodies - ultimate brightness, sustain, and shoulder/neck injury? :lol:
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White body, black scratchplate is my favorite set up. I'm totally gagging for a white/black sg now. Would match my tele perfectly.
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Here's a Telecaster I'm working on at the moment.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/Malcomez/Telecaster3.jpg)
Giggles.
out of curiosity is that some sort of 3-d guitar building program or just something you cooked up yourself?
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Here's a Telecaster I'm working on at the moment.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/Malcomez/Telecaster3.jpg)
Giggles.
out of curiosity is that some sort of 3-d guitar building program or just something you cooked up yourself?
That's just me in 3DS Max and about 30 mins work, I was going to continue working on it but my desktop has been abliterated by the heat :(
I don't think i've done too bad a job so far, the neck pickup is the only real bad thing I can see, need to see a tele up close again and figure it out.
Has no one spotted my sick joke yet? Heheh <: )
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Roocaster
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Oh yeah, spotted that bit immediately Adam :lol:
If you're after issues you want to tart up - it looks like you've got a tophat selector knob, but it's a little short (it's a little short for the other type as well, but it looks like a tophat). And the neck pocket looks awfully deep - at that angle you'd be able to see the bottom of the pocket.
Otherwise - it's a class job :D
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Oh yeah, spotted that bit immediately Adam :lol:
If you're after issues you want to tart up - it looks like you've got a tophat selector knob, but it's a little short (it's a little short for the other type as well, but it looks like a tophat). And the neck pocket looks awfully deep - at that angle you'd be able to see the bottom of the pocket.
Otherwise - it's a class job :D
Ah yes I thought something looked wrong with the selector, I've never had a tele or really seen one up close so it was a lot of guess work after looking through pictures
There's no neck pocket yet, I plan to do some measuring on a real tele for body thickness and heel depth and then sort that part out... and then the neck, which I'm absolutely dreading but it'll be well worth it. Need to get my main system back up and running first, this laptop which im stuck with barely copes with youtube!
I was originally planning on doing this, a strat, RG, LP, SG and then some other guitar styles... then offering to try different looks for people, maybe distribute it and guiding people towards the free learning edition of 3dsmax so they can change colours etc.
Could be good for people trying to pre visualise parts/custom guitars and a good technical challenge for myself :)
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and then the neck, which I'm absolutely dreading but it'll be well worth it. Need to get my main system back up and running first, this laptop which im stuck with barely copes with youtube!
If you want to see how others have modelled necks you could do worse than get a copy of Google Sketchup and download some of the models people have built for that. There are some handy exporters (OBJ I know for certain) that other folks have written for Sketchup to enable you to export the models without having to buy the pay-for version of Sketchup. They're worth a look, there's some very good models out there.
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Do you mean the "ashtray"? It comes off, for use as an, er, ashtray! (None of my teles came with theirs).
Thats good to hear :) However Ive just done a bit of reading up on the specs for the Fender Vintage '62 Custom and realised it has a 7.25" radius. I hate narrow radius (another reason why I want another Gibson style).
The only way I'm going to get what I want is a Warmoth at this rate which is basically custom :lol:
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Do you mean the "ashtray"? It comes off, for use as an, er, ashtray! (None of my teles came with theirs).
Thats good to hear :) However Ive just done a bit of reading up on the specs for the Fender Vintage '62 Custom and realised it has a 7.25" radius. I hate narrow radius (another reason why I want another Gibson style).
The only way I'm going to get what I want is a Warmoth at this rate which is basically custom :lol:
List the spec you want, I'm sure there is a Fender out there for you. I'm a fan of rht bound 62 customs, as well as the thinlines and the deluxes. There's a tele for almost everyone! Except Roo of course, but he's a bawbag.
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:lol: "bawbag"
Not sure the exacts but its something like:
-9.5" (at least) radius - would probably prefer 12 or something a bit flatter though
-C or V shaped neck - not too thin
-either black with white binding or that nice creamy white with black binding
-esquire would be cool, but normal S-S pickup config would be fine.
-ability to bring the rawk (so needs good pickups/price needs to leave leeway for a set of bkps!) humbucker (bridge at least) maybe considered.
-Not sure what bridge type/saddle config I'd want. Whatever gives you the best intonation without sacrificing the tone I guess.
-might also like a p90 one with regular hardtail bridge. Like that black one twinfan posted in his thread :)
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my tele's are cheaper than my SG's tom, and i still have that mahogany i was saving for you or the other korina blank like the one in TF's thread. esquires are particularly quick and easy to build
tell you what would look nice. solid mahogany esquire with cream binding and maple neck - all oil finished!
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Do you mean the "ashtray"? It comes off, for use as an, er, ashtray! (None of my teles came with theirs).
Thats good to hear :) However Ive just done a bit of reading up on the specs for the Fender Vintage '62 Custom and realised it has a 7.25" radius. I hate narrow radius (another reason why I want another Gibson style).
The only way I'm going to get what I want is a Warmoth at this rate which is basically custom :lol:
to UKers warmoth prices are close to custom prices anway, give or take a bit depending on the exchange rate and options
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Hmm if you want binding and a decent neck profile (9.5") you're looking at an American Deluxe tele (http://www.fender.co.uk/products//search.php?partno=0101602731).
If you want humbuckers, but no binding you're options are a 72 Deluxe (http://www.fender.co.uk/products//search.php?partno=0137702306) or the John 5 sig (http://www.fender.co.uk/products//search.php?partno=0137702306)
However! For P90s look into the Jim Adkins (Jimmy eat world guitarist) model (http://www.fender.co.uk/products//search.php?partno=0262350538).
Or do what I done- buy a mexican standard, take it home, and route it out with a hand drill. Not pretty, but one Holydiver later and you have a beast of an instrument.
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my tele's are cheaper than my SG's tom, and i still have that mahogany i was saving for you or the other korina blank like the one in TF's thread. esquires are particularly quick and easy to build
tell you what would look nice. solid mahogany esquire with cream binding and maple neck - all oil finished!
This seems your best bet though. For a while I had just the bridge humbucker in my tele, it sounded HUGE. Stuck the stock neck pickup in for some variation, but the single humbucker 'esquire' is a total beast.
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my tele's are cheaper than my SG's tom, and i still have that mahogany i was saving for you or the other korina blank like the one in TF's thread. esquires are particularly quick and easy to build
tell you what would look nice. solid mahogany esquire with cream binding and maple neck - all oil finished!
This seems your best bet though. For a while I had just the bridge humbucker in my tele, it sounded HUGE. Stuck the stock neck pickup in for some variation, but the single humbucker 'esquire' is a total beast.
without question i would fit a vintage-hot or hot tele bridge to a tele for tom's description. anything from a brown sugar up is pure RAWK tone. fendery, p90ish, and as dirty as hell.
edit: the added advantage is it fits lookwise too ;)
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However! For P90s look into the Jim Adkins (Jimmy eat world guitarist) model (http://www.fender.co.uk/products//search.php?partno=0262350538).
Also for P90s you could look into this
http://www.fender.com/products//search.php?partno=0141902306
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wez has been pm'd!
Just realised theres fender japan as well though. I remember sound control had a white one with black binding a while ago and it looked awesome.
Forgot about the Jim Root tele as well. Its not the most traditional but it does look very cool.
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Mine's fender japan Tom - just found the ngd thread: http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16258.0 (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16258.0)
There's a pic in the first post (she's changed name since then - she's Iris now).
I think it's a 7.25 radius, but it feels quite flat in relation to my other 7.25s (a 52 reissue with maple board, and my 62 reissue strat with rosewood board). After playing my Tokai Love Rock for an hour or two, I can pick this tele up and run with it, the other fenders require some time to get used to them...
I got mine in Denmark St (Rose Morris, I think) and I think it was around the £550 mark - it was certainly there-or-there-abouts for the usual price of these at the time.
I'm really happy with it - but I strongly suspect that the Wez plan is the best bet in this case...
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Another update to this thread, to keep it going ;)
Ian came round to my place today and we played a bunch of guitars and amps, as you might expect. Ian brought his Top Bound Esquire round with him.
Me like.
Lots.
If you ever want to sell it Ian, as if you would(!), I'm deadly serious when I say I'll buy it off you :)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh267/IanPPrice/DSCN6924.jpg)
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http://www.fender.com/customshop/instruments/search.php?partno=9233000023
Looks like that Esquire come in just about ever colour Fender make 8)
What's the the p/u like, isn't it that BG-1400 stacked humbuckers with the 30k output :o
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Yep, it's that very pickup.
It's really, really good! You cannot go by the specs alone. It's still bring and zingy when you back some volume off, and it's like a chunky Tele pickup when wound up. You do lose a little on the cleans as it's not as transparent, but there are coil split wires on it so you could add a four-way switch........
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I didn't realise the pickup was a stack! Pretty surprised by that.
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Another update to this thread, to keep it going ;)
Ian came round to my place today and we played a bunch of guitars and amps, as you might expect. Ian brought his Top Bound Esquire round with him.
Me like.
Lots.
If you ever want to sell it Ian, as if you would(!), I'm deadly serious when I say I'll buy it off you :)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh267/IanPPrice/DSCN6924.jpg)
That is B-E-A-UTIFUL!
Binding? yes
Esquire body? yes
Tasteful wear? yes
Blue? Yes!
Ticks all the boxes :D
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I didn't realise the pickup was a stack! Pretty surprised by that.
I was gobsmacked surprised when Dave told me it was a stack. He then got his equipment out and told me the output was 26k (I think it was 26k).
It's a great guitar and sounds fantastic through Dave's deluxe - which I am now GASing (and saving) for.
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I didn't realise the pickup was a stack! Pretty surprised by that.
I was gobsmacked surprised when Dave told me it was a stack. He then got his equipment out and told me the output was 26k (I think it was 26k).
It's a great guitar and sounds fantastic through Dave's deluxe - which I am now GASing (and saving) for.
Was that strictly necessary?
Sorry.
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Ha ha! :lol:
It was 26.4k ohms on my multimeter. All clothes were worn at all times.
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I didn't realise the pickup was a stack! Pretty surprised by that.
I was gobsmacked surprised when Dave told me it was a stack. He then got his equipment out and told me the output was 26k (I think it was 26k).
It's a great guitar and sounds fantastic through Dave's deluxe - which I am now GASing (and saving) for.
Was that strictly necessary?
Sorry.
:lol: So obviously not what I intended!!
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Just curious, is a Telecaster thicker than a Stratocaster?
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It's a great guitar and sounds fantastic through Dave's deluxe - which I am now GASing (and saving) for.
Tele though Deluxe is one of the definitive electric guitar sounds 8)
Just curious, is a Telecaster thicker than a Stratocaster?
The bridge has more grit but also a lot of treble. The classic trick is to back-off the guitar's tone just a little to remove some of the 'ice pick'. The neck is often criticised as not-as-good-as a strat. But to me it's just different, lower output, darker more jazzy.
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sort of semi related to this threads resurrection. I tried a number of Dave's guitars yesterday and can confirm that the PRS Modern Eagle is simply stunning in all areas. Sooo easy to play (and I'm not much of a player), a nice weight and well balanced, great finish, awesome neck and above all it just sounds perfect - the coil split is also very good indeed.
How about a swap Dave :P
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ooh, good point ian. i need to make sure Tf lets me have a nosey round the modern eagle when the sparkly esquire its done
johnny - not thicker but traditionally they have a sharper edge radius which i suppose could make them look a little thicker
leo started out with what was available, which was roughsawn 2" planks. by the time they are planed smooth they come out at 1 3/4"
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Aye, I think thats probably why they feel a little different. I hate the edges, so bloody annoying on the arm.
And I was asking physically not tonally, sorry Ken, lol
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ooh, good point ian. i need to make sure Tf lets me have a nosey round the modern eagle when the sparkly esquire its done
I thoroughly recommend it! I'll be looking for excuses to stop off at Dave's as I was 'just passing by' :lol:
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I was gobsmacked surprised when Dave told me it was a stack. He then got his equipment out and told me the output was 26k (I think it was 26k).
It's a great guitar and sounds fantastic through Dave's deluxe - which I am now GASing (and saving) for.
Was that strictly necessary?
Sorry.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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ooh, good point ian. i need to make sure Tf lets me have a nosey round the modern eagle when the sparkly esquire its done
I said to Ian yesterday that I would take it to you when I come and collect the Teles as I knew you'd want to check it out. Let me know when you want me to drop off the Thinline by the way ;)
Just as an extra note, my Modern Eagle is by far the best humbucker equipped guitar I've ever played.
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Just as an extra note, my Modern Eagle is by far the best humbucker equipped guitar I've ever played.
Yep, my experience as well. And I only had about 10 mins with it.
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Aye, I think thats probably why they feel a little different. I hate the edges, so bloody annoying on the arm.
And I was asking physically not tonally, sorry Ken, lol
Jonny, Fender Japan teles (those without binding) have slightly rounded edges - which kind of "annoys" the purists. I used to laugh at them getting annoyed, but I have to admit that I now prefer playing my Mexican Baja, with its sharp edges, to my FJ "52" with it's rounded edges :roll:
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That is a gorgeous guitar!
(spoken in Butthead voice) I think I just...innoculated.
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sort of semi related to this threads resurrection. I tried a number of Dave's guitars yesterday and can confirm that the PRS Modern Eagle is simply stunning in all areas. Sooo easy to play (and I'm not much of a player), a nice weight and well balanced, great finish, awesome neck and above all it just sounds perfect - the coil split is also very good indeed.
How about a swap Dave :P
Forgot to respond to this. Nice as your Esquire is mate..............
Not a chance :lol:
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sort of semi related to this threads resurrection. I tried a number of Dave's guitars yesterday and can confirm that the PRS Modern Eagle is simply stunning in all areas. Sooo easy to play (and I'm not much of a player), a nice weight and well balanced, great finish, awesome neck and above all it just sounds perfect - the coil split is also very good indeed.
How about a swap Dave :P
Forgot to respond to this. Nice as your Esquire is mate..............
Not a chance :lol:
I'm very surprised at that answer :lol:
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Oh, my, god, GAS!
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sort of semi related to this threads resurrection. I tried a number of Dave's guitars yesterday and can confirm that the PRS Modern Eagle is simply stunning in all areas. Sooo easy to play (and I'm not much of a player), a nice weight and well balanced, great finish, awesome neck and above all it just sounds perfect - the coil split is also very good indeed.
How about a swap Dave :P
Forgot to respond to this. Nice as your Esquire is mate..............
Not a chance :lol:
I'm very surprised at that answer :lol:
Ian, I can't believe you'd swap an Esquire for a PRS, it would be like swapping a Shelby Mustang or an AC Cobra for a Lexus :(
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Ian, I can't believe you'd swap an Esquire for a PRS, it would be like swapping a Shelby Mustang or an AC Cobra for a Lexus :(
:lol:
love it tom! - those bloody lexi drivers!!!
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http://guitarvillage.co.uk/product-detail.asp?id=8151&catid=3&manid=368&quantity=1&product=Rebel+Relic+Holy+Grail+Korina+Tele+%26+Gretsch+5w+Valve+Amp+%28Pack%29%2C+Butterscotch%2C+Pre+Owned%2C+EC%2B%2C+Inc%2E+Original+Tweed+Case
Oh, my, god, GAS!
It's like the coolest "Starter Pack" ever! :lol:
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That makes me wish I had a PRS, so I could trade it.
The Shelby Cobra/Lexus analogy is a very good one.
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Ian, I can't believe you'd swap an Esquire for a PRS, it would be like swapping a Shelby Mustang or an AC Cobra for a Lexus :(
:lol:
love it tom! - those bloody lexi drivers!!!
Indeed - now where's Dan?
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Ian, I can't believe you'd swap an Esquire for a PRS, it would be like swapping a Shelby Mustang or an AC Cobra for a Lexus :(
You haven't played my Modern Eagle. It's not your average PRS ;)
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Ian, I can't believe you'd swap an Esquire for a PRS, it would be like swapping a Shelby Mustang or an AC Cobra for a Lexus :(
You haven't played my Modern Eagle. It's not your average PRS ;)
It's still horses for courses, though, isn't it? A humbucker guitar - even if it's the best humbucker guitar in the world - just isn't going to suit a real die-hard Strat/Tele player.
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True Phil, very true!
It's the AC Cobra vs Lexus bit I was objecting to. There's nothing mass produced and mainstream about a Modern Eagle. They probably made less than 800 of them...
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Good point! I know next-to-nothing about cars. :lol:
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Ian, I can't believe you'd swap an Esquire for a PRS, it would be like swapping a Shelby Mustang or an AC Cobra for a Lexus :(
You haven't played my Modern Eagle. It's not your average PRS ;)
I most definitely agree with that. Took me completely by surprise!
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True Phil, very true!
It's the AC Cobra vs Lexus bit I was objecting to. There's nothing mass produced and mainstream about a Modern Eagle. They probably made less than 800 of them...
I was only messin :wink:
Although PRS's are a little fancy and refined for my tastes I must admit the ones I have played have been very nice, I'm sure the exclusive ones do feel very special. I'd rather not ever try one though for fear of getting GAS for one which could prove very expensive.....
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You're welcome to try my ME out any time mate :)