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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Twinfan on October 10, 2011, 03:55:51 PM

Title: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 10, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
As most of the old guard here on the forum will know, I've owned a fair few guitars over the years.  I think I've owned around 60 guitars of most types, and I pretty much know what I do and don't like.

I have two gigs next week which are my final 'DC tribute gigs, so I'm thinking of selling my UK built SG (Paul Richardson SGR) afterwards as I'll no longer need an SG.  Is there something else I could replace it with?  Once my PRS Private Stock arrives in a couple of weeks I'll have at my disposal:

Live guitars to use with my covers band through my Bogner XTC Classic
* PRS PS Signature Ltd
* Fender CS Top Bound Esquire Relic

Others
* PRS Modern Eagle
* Fender CS '58 Heavy Relic Tele
* Squier JV Strat

I'm thinking something else that I could use live would be good.  I play almost exclusively with gain, from crunch (AC/DC) to singing lead (Gary Moore), so the guitar has to work with that setup.  A few basic requirements are:

* Preferably a doublecut model
* Preferably a nitro finish
* No Les Pauls
* Maybe a trem of some sort, but not a Floyd
* Something conventional but a bit "different", not wacky or pointy (e.g. Fano good, Dean bad)
* P90s or humbuckers

A few things I've thought about/you've come up with so far are:

* Early PRS Custom 24 with a sweet switch (always fancied trying one) - discarded due to poly finish
* Gibson ES-335 or similar, with or without a Bigsby (quite fancy a Bigsby)
* Gibson CS LP Junior
* Gretsch Billy-Bo - discarded due to poly finish
* Gibson ES-339
* PRS DGT (early model with full nitro finish, Goldtop with birds?)
* Hamer Special

Anything else anyone can suggest?  Budget is around £2k I guess, but could be stretched if required....
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: HTH AMPS on October 10, 2011, 04:06:03 PM
Gretsch White Falcon double cut...

(http://www.musicpower.com/mmGUITARTRADER/Images/EGGTPN-G6136DC-f.jpg)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 10, 2011, 04:14:23 PM
Hmmm, something Gretsch-y is a possible I guess.  I'm not overly keen on the massive hollow body models as I find them awkward to play though?
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Ian Price on October 10, 2011, 04:24:02 PM
I was also going to mention something Gretsch like but then thought that the body on their semi models are quite big. This is pretty much why I got rid of my 335 although I didn't really give it enough time. The adjustment going from a tele at the time (I think) was quite big and I never really got used to it.

Perhaps a 335 could be a go-er, not quite as blingy as a Gretsch either.

Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: ToneMonkey on October 10, 2011, 04:33:13 PM
Motorbike  :lol:

How about a Les Paul Junior?
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Andrew W on October 10, 2011, 04:50:06 PM
Gretsch Duo-Jet/Power-Jet perhaps?

(http://www1.odn.ne.jp/toolbox/sakurai/duojet.jpg)

Gretsch Billy-Bo?

(http://wildwestguitars.com/gretsch/large/gretsch_billybo.jpg)

Epiphone Wilshire (either vintage, Gibson CS or the regular new cheapie)?
(http://www.rocknrollvintage.com/prodimages/1965-Epiphone-Wilshire-Cherry-Red-Big.jpg)

Gibson Firebird?

(http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/36969_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 10, 2011, 05:04:32 PM
* Gibson ES-335 or similar, with or without a Bigsby (quite fancy a Bigsby)

Wanna buy my ES-339?  I could sell you a Bigsby B5 and a Vibramate, too....  :wink:
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Matt77 on October 10, 2011, 05:06:43 PM
Counseling?  :)
Trussarts?
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 10, 2011, 05:10:58 PM
Cheers for the suggestions guys!

LP Junior - A definite possibility, I'll update my first post.
Duo-Jet - not sure the pickups would do the "singing lead" tone I like
Billy-Bo - nearly bought one once, will add to the list.
Wilshire - not really my thing, looks a bit awkward to my eyes
Firebird - have a reputation as neck heavy monsters?

Philly - a 339 might be cool, another for the list!

Matt - thanks for the mental health advice  ;)  The only Trussarts I like the look of are singlecuts, so they're out?
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: WezV on October 10, 2011, 05:20:09 PM
if you want to push the budget how about a collings, nik huber  or this vaguely zemaitis style trussart
http://guitars4you.co.uk/product-detail.php?id=319

  then you can sell it to me cheap in 6 months or so ;)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: sgmypod on October 10, 2011, 05:22:32 PM
(http://duesenberg.de/fileadmin/Dokumente/Instrumente/D_Caster/D_Caster_white_SSH.jpg)
or
(http://duesenberg.de/fileadmin/Dokumente/Instrumente/52_Senior/52_Toaster.jpg)
or
(http://duesenberg.de/fileadmin/Dokumente/Instrumente/Fullerton/CC_Fullerton.jpg)
or
(http://duesenberg.de/fileadmin/Dokumente/Instrumente/Dragster/Dragster_DC_oilwax.jpg)
or the gretsch's previously mentioned
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: viking on October 10, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
I think i would wait until the PS Sig's arrival  :)!That guitar should make a big difference...
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 10, 2011, 05:26:45 PM
Indeed it will, maybe I won't need anything else...

Trussarts are cool, but singlecuts and me don't get on  :(

The Duesy's are nice but I always ffel they're a bit overpriced.  Maybe I just haven't played a great one yet?
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 10, 2011, 05:28:35 PM
if you want to push the budget how about a collings, nik huber  or this vaguely zemaitis style trussart
http://guitars4you.co.uk/product-detail.php?id=319

then you can sell it to me cheap in 6 months or so ;)

Collings guitars look bloody awesome.  I love the way they're like super-refined versions of well known Gibson designs.

Nik Hubers ain't bad either.  :)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: sgmypod on October 10, 2011, 05:30:18 PM
they aint cheap but playability wise are great...made mistake of trying the 52senior with toaster.....(still have and use as main gig guitar my 49er)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: shobet on October 10, 2011, 05:35:25 PM
An early 80s Hamer special.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: HTH AMPS on October 10, 2011, 05:39:51 PM
Hmmm, something Gretsch-y is a possible I guess.  I'm not overly keen on the massive hollow body models as I find them awkward to play though?

Silver Jet? - they come in DC and SC versions...

(http://www.altomusic.com/shop/images/product/110730-a6ecf37a1d7eda0691f207df1247267d.jpg)

(http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/images/30N/G6129T62_body-front.jpg)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: HTH AMPS on October 10, 2011, 05:41:13 PM
ever had a Vee? - great guitars and gig-friendly too (light).
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: sgmypod on October 10, 2011, 05:44:33 PM
mmm gretsch in silver
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 10, 2011, 05:51:02 PM
An early 80s Hamer special.

I've got one of those too.... I think it would have to be described as a "project" guitar, though....  :?
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: shobet on October 10, 2011, 05:54:56 PM
An early 80s Hamer special.

I've got one of those too.... I think it would have to be described as a "project" guitar, though....  :?
I'll unproject it for you! ;)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: roland_rat on October 10, 2011, 06:07:43 PM
What about a PRS or Knaggs taht is semi hollow?
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 10, 2011, 06:10:23 PM
An early 80s Hamer special.

I've got one of those too.... I think it would have to be described as a "project" guitar, though....  :?
I'll unproject it for you! ;)

Could be hard work.... it's been under my bed (with all those Warmoth necks  :wink: ) untouched for about 10 years, when I last saw it the finish had reacted with the lining of the case  and gone all mottled (guitar cellulite?).  God knows what it looks like now.  I also foolishly fitted a Kahler in place of the original strings-through-body hardtail bridge (well it was 1985!)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Andrew W on October 10, 2011, 06:45:00 PM

Duo-Jet - not sure the pickups would do the "singing lead" tone I like


Maybe try a Power Jet? It's the same as a Duo Jet but with the extra oomph of the TV Jones PowerTron pickups.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 10, 2011, 06:49:20 PM

Duo-Jet - not sure the pickups would do the "singing lead" tone I like


Maybe try a Power Jet? It's the same as a Duo Jet but with the extra oomph of the TV Jones PowerTron pickups.


http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25779.0 (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25779.0)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 10, 2011, 06:58:00 PM
After browsing around the Gretsch site, I really don't think anything's going to grab me.  They're all a bit too Gretsch-y for my liking!  :lol:

A PRS DGT could be a nice trem alternative to my ME/PS as they're all basically McCarty models, so I'll add that to the list too.  An early Hamer could be just the ticket too...

HTH - yep, I've had a Vee.  Didn't get on with the shape  :(
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 10, 2011, 07:02:25 PM
A PRS DGT could be a nice trem alternative to my ME/PS as they're all basically McCarty models, so I'll add that to the list too.  An early Hamer could be just the ticket too...

I don't like the extra volume knob on the DGT, but everything else about it is cool.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: gwEm on October 10, 2011, 07:11:17 PM
FWIW, I'm going to suggest a Billy Bo too, since quite fancy one myself as well.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 10, 2011, 07:11:23 PM
I'm not either Phil, but they get raved about as tone machines.  Plus the early ones have full nitro finishes and I've never had a goldtop...
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: gordiji on October 10, 2011, 07:50:36 PM
I was beginning to think this was another 'ugliest guitar' thread judging by the monstrocities posted so far (firebird excluded).
so what about a Yamaha sg 3000 or one of the upper end models.look great, sound great, made v.well, lots of versitility
with the single/humbucker switching.(maybe the first guitars to offer this ?)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 10, 2011, 07:59:29 PM
Not a bad choice, but I'm a bit of a nitro/oiled finish snob  :(  I'm right off poly finishes.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Lukie on October 10, 2011, 08:31:17 PM
Not a bad choice, but I'm a bit of a nitro/oiled finish snob  :(  I'm right off poly finishes.

Go custom, what about a Martyn Booth?

http://www.martynboothguitars.co.uk/gallery/gallery_thumbs.asp?CatID=2

Maybe you can get a finish to match your new PRS.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: dave_mc on October 10, 2011, 08:58:44 PM
Collings guitars look bloody awesome.  I love the way they're like super-refined versions of well known Gibson designs.

Nik Hubers ain't bad either.  :)

+1

never tried a collings, but they look sweet. The Huber i tried, while not with my ideal neck profile, was pretty badass.

Bound to be worth a look, though they might be a bit over budget... :lol:
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Brow on October 10, 2011, 09:20:32 PM
So your newest expensive guitar hasn't even arrived yet and you're now looking to spend another ton of money on something else...............

You have a serious illness mate!  :lol:
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 10, 2011, 09:38:49 PM
Hey, I like to try new stuff out!  Where's the crime?  :lol:
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Tellboy on October 10, 2011, 10:22:07 PM
Hey, I like to try new stuff out!  Where's the crime?  :lol:

Each to his own - personally a constant need to change gear would get in the way of the enjoyment I get from playing. If I want a certain sound my first port of call would be to use guitar volume/tone controls and adjust the amp settings - and practice or adjust technique.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: HTH AMPS on October 10, 2011, 10:28:29 PM
you could just give me the two grand and I'll look after it for you  :lol:
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Thrull on October 10, 2011, 10:33:58 PM
might i suggest a vintage BC Rich Koa Eagle? It's double cut, not pointy like your average BC. It's NECK THROUGH! has an amazing array of electronics that are much more useful than one may think. It's classy yet stands out from all the guitars you see on stage today. They have possibly the best hardatil bridge EVER MADE!! All the saddles are move in all directions for perfect setups, and they are made of solid brass for amazing singing sustain! Koa sounds amazing to boot!

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m54/Necrite_ist_Krieg/78REagle-1.jpg)
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m54/Necrite_ist_Krieg/78REaglengl3.jpg)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 10, 2011, 10:37:59 PM
^ Nice!
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Dazza1004 on October 10, 2011, 10:47:25 PM
The only thing that's ever come close to my PRS is my Suhr, they do pretty much anything you want
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 11, 2011, 09:30:39 AM
Waaaay too many switches on that BC Rich for me!

Suhr's may be a bit too Stratty for me, I should probably try one though  :)


Each to his own - personally a constant need to change gear would get in the way of the enjoyment I get from playing. If I want a certain sound my first port of call would be to use guitar volume/tone controls and adjust the amp settings - and practice or adjust technique.

I don't need to change my gear, I'm really happy that I have the tones I want with the gear I have.  As I said before, I like to try different stuff to see if it lights my fire  :)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 11, 2011, 09:57:52 AM
An early 80s Hamer special.

I've got one of those too.... I think it would have to be described as a "project" guitar, though....  :?
I'll unproject it for you! ;)

Could be hard work.... it's been under my bed (with all those Warmoth necks  :wink: ) untouched for about 10 years

I'm worried how big your bed is Phil as it seems to have a guitar museum under it
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: roland_rat on October 11, 2011, 10:19:01 AM
I think it must be a cabin bed!




An early 80s Hamer special.

I've got one of those too.... I think it would have to be described as a "project" guitar, though....  :?
I'll unproject it for you! ;)

Could be hard work.... it's been under my bed (with all those Warmoth necks  :wink: ) untouched for about 10 years, when I last saw it the finish had reacted with the lining of the case  and gone all mottled (guitar cellulite?).  God knows what it looks like now.  I also foolishly fitted a Kahler in place of the original strings-through-body hardtail bridge (well it was 1985!)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Madsakre on October 11, 2011, 10:35:08 AM
Dusenberg (Y)
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Tellboy on October 11, 2011, 10:37:52 AM

Each to his own - personally a constant need to change gear would get in the way of the enjoyment I get from playing. If I want a certain sound my first port of call would be to use guitar volume/tone controls and adjust the amp settings - and practice or adjust technique.

I don't need to change my gear, I'm really happy that I have the tones I want with the gear I have.  As I said before, I like to try different stuff to see if it lights my fire  :)

Expensive fire at £2000 a time - save yourself some money and buy one of these: (http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af175/Tellboy/AH/fire-extinguisher.jpg)
 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 11, 2011, 12:32:02 PM
An early 80s Hamer special.

I've got one of those too.... I think it would have to be described as a "project" guitar, though....  :?
I'll unproject it for you! ;)

Could be hard work.... it's been under my bed (with all those Warmoth necks  :wink: ) untouched for about 10 years

I'm worried how big your bed is Phil as it seems to have a guitar museum under it

Ah well, it's only a figurative bed.   :wink:

There are in fact no Warmoth parts under my bed, they're all over the place.

The Hamer, on the other hand, is......... actually under my (literal) bed.  Together with an old Gordon-Smith GS-1, a Chandler (USA) Strat, a Palm Bay Tele neck and body (I think) and (probably) that blue Superstrat I made (if that's not under the bed, I don't know where it is..... :? )
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Brow on October 11, 2011, 12:44:44 PM
Hey, I like to try new stuff out!  Where's the crime?  :lol:

eh, no crime at all. But most people would atleast TRY the new guitar 1st!  :lol:
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Lucifuge on October 11, 2011, 12:51:56 PM
Gibson ES-339/359

Edit: sorry, just noticed this was already included on your original list of possibilities - I just thought I'd add it because they're guitars I've always wanted.

What about a Nighthawk (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Designer/Gibson-USA/Nighthawk-2011.aspx) - another Gibson model that I've always liked.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 11, 2011, 01:00:18 PM
eh, no crime at all. But most people would atleast TRY the new guitar 1st!  :lol:

I kinda know what that's going to be like, so I'm looking ahead for the next one!  :lol:
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 11, 2011, 01:07:04 PM
eh, no crime at all. But most people would atleast TRY the new guitar 1st!  :lol:

I kinda know what that's going to be like, so I'm looking ahead for the next one!  :lol:

I'm glad you've given up on this "never buy another guitar" nonsense.  :P

I meant to say earlier, though, seems a shame to sell the SGR even if you don't "need" an SG.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: ToneMonkey on October 11, 2011, 01:19:09 PM
For two grand, you could buy some tools and build a few of your own............

...... PRS may go out of business if you do though.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 11, 2011, 02:08:40 PM
Nah, I'm no good at handiwork.  I just enjoy playing them  :)

Philly - I don't need any other guitars, nor to sell the SGR.  I like to rotate the stable a bit to try new stuff.

A PRS DGT is the one that's talking to me most at the moment...
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: MrBump on October 11, 2011, 02:45:30 PM
I really think that Philly should put all his odds n sods in a pic on here - I think that his inventory may throw up some very interesting finds...
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 11, 2011, 03:14:51 PM
I really think that Philly should put all his odds n sods in a pic on here - I think that his inventory may throw up some very interesting finds...

I'd have to get one of those funny wide-angle cameras they use for school photos.  :|
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: dave_mc on October 11, 2011, 03:43:53 PM
Waaaay too many switches on that BC Rich for me!

Suhr's may be a bit too Stratty for me, I should probably try one though  :)


try a tyler too- it's hardly scientific as i only tried one of each head-to-head (plus personal preference doubtless plays a pretty big part), but i thought the tyler i tried wiped the floor with the suhr.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 11, 2011, 04:00:08 PM
try a tyler too- it's hardly scientific as i only tried one of each head-to-head (plus personal preference doubtless plays a pretty big part), but i thought the tyler i tried wiped the floor with the suhr.

The Tyler '59 neck on the one I had was awesome - but I've never tried any Suhrs for comparison.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: roland_rat on October 11, 2011, 05:40:05 PM
what about this one dave


http://www.coda-music.com/product_info.php?products_id=8771&oscsid=08772098dd4ba38b28bc5ea1ac1810b5
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 11, 2011, 05:45:18 PM
Short scale mate - 24.5".  Doesn't really suit me unfortunately...
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Telerocker on October 11, 2011, 08:24:28 PM
Johan Gustavsson Bluesmaster Custom '59

Has a honduran mahogany body with a AAA carved flame maple top, glued in mahogany neck, Brazilian rosewood fretboard with crown inlays, 24 3/4" scale length, two humbuckers or P90´s, custom made "wraparound" bridge, Sperzel machine heads.

Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 11, 2011, 08:39:13 PM
I've heard about them, but don't know a lot.  No website either!
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: sgmypod on October 11, 2011, 08:51:49 PM
want the BC Rich Koa Eagle
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: JDC on October 11, 2011, 09:44:08 PM
You don't have some kind of gibson style V ;)

It's not THAT pointy
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Twinfan on October 11, 2011, 09:49:55 PM
Mentioned earlier - had one, didn't get on with the shape...
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Telerocker on October 11, 2011, 10:29:13 PM
Could not find a website too about Gustavsson. Maxguitarstore in the Hague has two models, one with hb's, one with P90's.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Philly Q on October 11, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Johan Gustavsson Bluesmaster Custom '59

Has a honduran mahogany body with a AAA carved flame maple top, glued in mahogany neck, Brazilian rosewood fretboard with crown inlays, 24 3/4" scale length, two humbuckers or P90´s, custom made "wraparound" bridge, Sperzel machine heads.

It is essentially a Les Paul, though, isn't it?  Unless it's a hollow body?  There's a hint of Nik Huber in the body shape.
Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Telerocker on October 11, 2011, 10:57:29 PM
Found the site:

http://www.jgguitars.com/ (http://www.jgguitars.com/)
(under construction)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Johan-Gustavsson-Guitars/201816559863717 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Johan-Gustavsson-Guitars/201816559863717)

http://www.destroyallguitars.com/gustavsson (http://www.destroyallguitars.com/gustavsson)

~ Johan Gustavsson Guitars ~

It´s been just about twenty years since Johan Gustavsson built his first guitar during an apprenticeship in a furniture workshop in Malmoe, Sweden. As a young guitarist he could not afford expensive name brand instruments. That's why he decided to find out if he could manage to build a guitar on his own. Lots of wood and machinery was right in front of him. His first instrument won first prize in a contest arranged by the magazine HIFI & Music. His curiosity paved the way to forming JG Guitars, when his three year education was completed.

Johan has been a professional touring and session guitarist for well over 2 decades. His vast experience with the repair and restoration of the most coveted vintage guitars that Fullerton and Kalamazoo ever produced has informed his aesthetic. His experiences as both a luthier and a seasoned player made it abundantly clear that he had to supply his clients with instruments that at least rivaled the finest vintage and boutique guitars available, both in terms of playability and beauty. Johan's guitars are built of only the finest Brazilian Rosewood, old growth Honduras Mahogany, Swamp Ash and Eastern hardrock Maple. Hardware options are limited only by availability. Gustavsson instruments are completely built with both passion and precision. The satisfaction of each individual client is job one. Simple as that!!

Title: Re: Guitar suggestions - is there anything I should try next?
Post by: Telerocker on October 11, 2011, 11:03:20 PM
Johan Gustavsson Bluesmaster Custom '59

Has a honduran mahogany body with a AAA carved flame maple top, glued in mahogany neck, Brazilian rosewood fretboard with crown inlays, 24 3/4" scale length, two humbuckers or P90´s, custom made "wraparound" bridge, Sperzel machine heads.

It is essentially a Les Paul, though, isn't it?  Unless it's a hollow body?  There's a hint of Nik Huber in the body shape.

Indeed Les Paul-ish. Not hollow, for as far as I know. There is some Huber in the body shape, but the JG-shape is also quite close to the Hamer Talladega, I think.

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Post by: Philly Q on October 11, 2011, 11:06:53 PM
You're right, it's more Hamer than Huber.  :D
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Post by: Twinfan on October 12, 2011, 09:51:15 AM
Yep, certainly looks Hamer-ish!

Negotiations have started on a DGT, so that may well be the winner....
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Post by: shobet on October 12, 2011, 10:30:12 AM
Yep, certainly looks Hamer-ish!

Negotiations have started on a DGT, so that may well be the winner....

Gold top perchance?
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Post by: Twinfan on October 12, 2011, 10:43:41 AM
Of course, what else  ;)
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Post by: Philly Q on October 12, 2011, 11:06:07 AM
So you'll have the DGT before the Private Stock then?  :lol:
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Post by: dave_mc on October 12, 2011, 02:15:07 PM
The Tyler '59 neck on the one I had was awesome - but I've never tried any Suhrs for comparison.

can't remember what the neck was on the one i tried... and as i said, having only tried one of each it doesn't tell you all that much, but i did think the tyler was sweet. Very expensive, though, and I'm not sure it was any better than a custom build which you could get for about half the price from a british luthier (plus with a custom build you can get it exactly the way you want, with the right pickups etc.).

EDIT: nice score, dave :)
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Post by: Twinfan on October 12, 2011, 03:48:43 PM
Goldtop DGT ordered  ;)

The SGR will be up for sale in a week or so, and I'll need to decide whether the JTM45/100 half stack stays or goes too....
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Post by: ToneMonkey on October 12, 2011, 05:00:51 PM
Dave - When we met at Wez's house, which PRS was it that had the rosewood neck? I've been thinking about the feel of that neck and I'm curious. I'm back to thinking about the project build (note: not actually building it :roll:) and I would like something similar. Can you also let me know what the finish was.

Cheers mate.

Any photo's of the PRS yet (the new one....no, not that new one....... the other new one  :lol:)
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Post by: Twinfan on October 12, 2011, 05:28:04 PM
The PRS you tried was my Modern Eagle mate, and the Brazilian Rosewood is raw.  No finish whatsover, and it's as smooth as silk.

The arriving-on-Friday guitar is this:

(http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/cms/images/custom/guitars/3563-prs-dgt-dave-grissom---gold-top/3563.JPG)
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Post by: ToneMonkey on October 12, 2011, 05:32:58 PM
Excellent, cheers mate. That thing was awesome.

Nice goldtop. Are the back, sides and neck finished in black?
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Post by: Twinfan on October 12, 2011, 05:35:14 PM
It is an awesome guitar, for me it's irreplaceable.

The back of the goldtop is a transparent dark brown, like a darkback '57 Les Paul reissue...
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Post by: ToneMonkey on October 12, 2011, 05:39:19 PM
for me it's irreplaceable.


I'm sure that comment is going to generate more than a couple of sarcastic responses.
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Post by: Philly Q on October 12, 2011, 05:54:53 PM
The arriving-on-Friday guitar is this:

From Mr Hopkin?
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Post by: Ian Price on October 12, 2011, 06:03:43 PM
for me it's irreplaceable.


I'm sure that comment is going to generate more than a couple of sarcastic responses.


To be fair to Dave he has consistently said that since he has had it. As far as Dave/Guitar relationships go this must be one of the longest in recent memory (I know the Strat is the longest server in Daves stable)
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Post by: WezV on October 12, 2011, 06:08:18 PM
that was his modern eagle
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Post by: dave_mc on October 12, 2011, 06:53:03 PM
nice :D
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Post by: Twinfan on October 12, 2011, 07:04:51 PM
The Eagle is never going anywhere, never.  I'm happy to state that  :D  All the guitars I own have been put up for sale, or offered for sale, at one point or another EXCEPT for the Eagle.  Since buying it, I've never even once been tempted to part with it.  Ever.

The JV Strat I have I've owned for 22 years and counting.  It rarely gets played though  :lol:

Philly - yep, Mark did me a deal I couldn't refuse  ;)
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Post by: Telerocker on October 12, 2011, 08:00:32 PM
Very classy classic. I like the plain yet sophisticated look of Goldtops.
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Post by: Philly Q on October 12, 2011, 10:28:14 PM
The Eagle is never going anywhere, never.  I'm happy to state that  :D  All the guitars I own have been put up for sale, or offered for sale, at one point or another EXCEPT for the Eagle.  Since buying it, I've never even once been tempted to part with it.  Ever.

That's interesting!  I think everything I've decided to sell, I have ended up actually selling, even if it took a while and went for a sh!tty price.

Although having said that, I might have attempted to sell my Tele Thinline at one point, before deciding it was a keeper.  Can't remember.  :?
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Post by: Ian Price on October 12, 2011, 10:49:32 PM
I've sold every guitar I have ever owned. The Baja is going nowhere for now - I'll also find it difficult to sell on and get a decent price for it considering I have removed the finish from the neck. I did do this for comfort but part of me wonders if I subliminally did it to stop trading guitars all the time and get playing more!
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Post by: Philly Q on October 12, 2011, 10:59:51 PM
For me, it's a case of the longer I own it, the less likely I am to sell it.  I am definitely a sentimentalist.  But once I do decide to get shot of something, it's hardly ever difficult to part with it.
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Post by: Ian Price on October 12, 2011, 11:03:08 PM
Yeah - I definitely used to be but over the last 5 years my average ownership time on a guitar was probably about 6 months. Intergalactically stupid! I've had the Baja for over a year now.
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Post by: Ian Price on October 12, 2011, 11:09:51 PM
Sorry Dave - just noticed the DGT you have on it's way. Looks ace! I'm wondering if you still get the same sense of anticipation of waiting for a new guitar to be delivered  :D
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Post by: Twinfan on October 13, 2011, 09:14:08 AM
Of course I do, the fun never goes away  :)

I think everything I've decided to sell, I have ended up actually selling, even if it took a while and went for a sh!tty price.

I've only offered my other guitars for sale once each before realising the error of my ways!  :lol:
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Post by: roland_rat on October 13, 2011, 01:51:16 PM
Intresting new purchase :D Hope you enjoy it when it arrives.
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Post by: d1dsj on October 13, 2011, 08:18:15 PM
Nice choice Dave, I'd be interested ito hear why you chose a gold top and not another McKorina or McRosie? If I'd have had the cash I would have bought one of the ones you sold hence my question.
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Post by: Twinfan on October 13, 2011, 08:43:19 PM
I've had 3 McKorinas and while they give a great warm bluesy sound, they don't work so well in a live band mix for the rock tunes we play, and for my own bass heavy playing style.  They sound less "wide" - like they're lacking some extra high end sparkle?  I guess the lack of maple top zing is the factor here.

Another McRosie would just be a lower spec Modern Eagle, and I wanted something different.  I'ev had two McRosies before, and neither compared to the Eagle for me.

The PS Sig Ltd on the way is basically a Modern Eagle with a sinker mahogany neck, so it's different to the Eagle.  The DGT is different again due to it's trem, and has the advantage of a nitro finish (unlike a regular McCarty or Custom).

Simple huh?  :lol:
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Post by: d1dsj on October 13, 2011, 09:13:16 PM
Ok then, I get it!  8)
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Post by: Twinfan on October 13, 2011, 09:18:48 PM
Ha ha!  I'm glad someone does!  You'll have to bob up and try them all out sometime.
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Post by: Philly Q on October 13, 2011, 10:48:27 PM
I've had 3 McKorinas and while they give a great warm bluesy sound, they don't work so well in a live band mix for the rock tunes we play, and for my own bass heavy playing style.  They sound less "wide" - like they're lacking some extra high end sparkle?  I guess the lack of maple top zing is the factor here.

Yeah, I can imagine that.  I love the korina tone, but of course I'm not playing in a band situation.  I think there's a little more sparkle than mahogany - in a way - but not so much as a mapletop.
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Post by: Twinfan on October 14, 2011, 07:46:15 PM
Well the DGT is here  :)  Nice weight and the gold is cool in the flesh.

It feels great, the neck seems inbetween a wide fat and a regular with a hint of V. Very easy to play. The stock 11s take a bit more shove to bend to pitch, but don't feel 'tight' - quite an unusual feeling.

Tone wise it seems to have more thickness than the Eagle, yet with the same level of clarity. I reckon the ME is a slightly better match for the XTC and more unique sounding, but the DGT is a better all-rounder.

More back to backs and amp comparisons required over the weekend I think!
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Post by: Philly Q on October 14, 2011, 10:08:30 PM
How do you think the trem affects tone/sustain, Dave?

It's always been my impression that the PRS tremolo is probably the best unit out there for people who don't usually like tremolos... if you see what I mean.  :lol:
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Post by: viking on October 15, 2011, 01:50:31 AM
Congrats for the DGT !To my ears,the PRS tremolo is a + .Better tone & sustain.David Grissom started with a Mcarty but quickly asked for a trem (McTrem) as he prefered the tone & feel .When they built the DGT,the trem was a fixture all along ,esp. for his "reverb" effect...And i agree but i don't have a DGT  :?...yet! Is it as good as advertised?
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Post by: juansolo on October 15, 2011, 08:46:23 AM
I think you should get that Tabby hybid. Then get bored of it in say 6 months then sell it to me at a bargain price... I really love the look/idea of that thing.
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Post by: Twinfan on October 15, 2011, 09:19:49 AM
Quite happy with PRS guitars thanks Mr Solo - that hybrid is cool but a bit too Strat for me. I like Fenders raw like a beat up Esquire or Tele!

Not had enough time to assess the trem yet, but I didn't notice any lack of sustain. I can feel and hear the difference between the DGT and the Eagle but I think it's an unfair comparison. The woods used are of different quality and the Eagle has a bit of special mojo on top...
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Post by: d1dsj on October 15, 2011, 10:21:35 AM
Awesome, glad you are happy with it. When the "other" new one arrives I'll bring my better half up your way and drop by to check these beasts out. I think a couple of nice pics of the PRSi would be good! 8)
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Post by: Twinfan on October 15, 2011, 12:02:51 PM
Of course! I'll fire up the digital SLR...
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Post by: Brow on October 15, 2011, 01:41:11 PM
It's always been my impression that the PRS tremolo is probably the best unit out there for people who don't usually like tremolos... if you see what I mean.  :lol:

I'll agree with this. The 6 point PRS trem on my CU22 is my fave trem unit of anything I have.
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Post by: Tellboy on October 15, 2011, 05:58:49 PM
It's always been my impression that the PRS tremolo is probably the best unit out there for people who don't usually like tremolos... if you see what I mean.  :lol:

I'll agree with this. The 6 point PRS trem on my CU22 is my fave trem unit of anything I have.

+1 - And they stay in tune very well. Only gripe is that they seem to almost weld the springs into the trem block. I would like to fit a Tremol-No on my Studio but can't budge the springs out of the block.
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Post by: mikeluke on October 16, 2011, 08:06:35 PM
Sounds like I am too late...

I was going to suggest one of these:

http://www.dv247.com/guitars/yamaha-sg1820ltd-electric-guitar-charcoal-grey--82796

In action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOk9kNOXBjs

Worth watching just to hear one of the guitarists trying to string two words together!
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Post by: Philly Q on October 17, 2011, 12:29:13 AM
I was going to suggest one of these:

http://www.dv247.com/guitars/yamaha-sg1820ltd-electric-guitar-charcoal-grey--82796

I'm sure those are great guitars, but..... I can't understand why they've stripped away so many of the features which make the SG2000 so distinctive (ebony board, through-neck, proprietary hardware and pickups etc).  And then they charge extra for it!
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Post by: mikeluke on October 17, 2011, 09:25:32 AM
Phil - I agree - the originals were stunning guitars. Mind you, I am sure that the fact that Phil X also plays one is not a plus factor either!

:-)

Mike

PS - I use to play in guitar workshops with one of the guys in the Treatment (on the left) - really good player even when he was a teenager
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Post by: Philly Q on October 17, 2011, 11:32:55 AM
Phil - I agree - the originals were stunning guitars. Mind you, I am sure that the fact that Phil X also plays one is not a plus factor either!

Oh god yes, I'd forgotten Mr X has been using them!  :o 

I do still want an SG2000, one day.
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Post by: Ian Price on October 17, 2011, 11:38:36 AM
I've considered one in the past but think that the weight and price would put me off now. If I did ever go for one I would go for a P90d model.
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Post by: Telerocker on October 17, 2011, 12:21:49 PM
Phil - I agree - the originals were stunning guitars. Mind you, I am sure that the fact that Phil X also plays one is not a plus factor either!

Oh god yes, I'd forgotten Mr X has been using them!  :o 

I do still want an SG2000, one day.

I had an old SG700 in winered. Sounds great (coilsplit too), weighs a ton and therefore not a guitar I would/could play the whole gig (which in my band is usually 3 to 3,5 hours). Nevertheless, great guitar with superb acces to the higher frets.
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Post by: Twinfan on October 19, 2011, 10:39:29 PM
I've just realised that up to now I've broken "Fernando's law" - here's a pic to show it DID happen  ;)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Guitar%20stuff/2011-10-19222013.jpg)

I've got to say this is a very good guitar.  Very good indeed...
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Post by: FernandoDuarte on October 19, 2011, 10:51:15 PM
:P

Looks very good! Great that you like it!
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Post by: sgmypod on October 19, 2011, 11:14:04 PM
Is it a PRS?
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Post by: Philly Q on October 20, 2011, 01:28:20 AM
Is it a PRS?

Eh?  :? :P
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Post by: Twinfan on October 20, 2011, 09:45:32 AM
I seem to have manouvered myself into a position where I only buy PRS electrics now.....
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Post by: Andrew W on October 20, 2011, 09:52:03 AM
I seem to have manouvered myself into a position where I only buy PRS electrics now.....
Well you seem to like 'em so where's the harm?

That's a very pretty guitar. I do like a Gold Top. The DGTs and McCarty's are the PRSs that turn my head most I think and I do like Mr Grissom's tone a lot.
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Post by: Twinfan on October 20, 2011, 10:37:09 AM
Yeah, he's a superb player.  Clearly deserves his place as one of the top Nashville guys.
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Post by: Philly Q on October 20, 2011, 10:58:27 AM
I seem to have manouvered myself into a position where I only buy PRS electrics now.....

Nothing wrong with that, although it is an expensive business!  :lol:

I'm quite relieved that my GAS only runs to the cheaper PRS models.... although I seem to be creeping ever closer to that dangerous £2k mark with some of my more recent guitar acquisitions.
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Post by: Twinfan on October 20, 2011, 11:38:18 AM
It's a slippery slope Phil!  :lol:

I reckon the DGT is the gem in the PRS lineup if you like classic tones...
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Post by: Philly Q on October 20, 2011, 11:51:49 AM
Slippery slope indeed Dave.  I think my most expensive guitar to date was £1,899, so I'm getting dangerously close.....  :|  :lol:

I actually have been quite tempted by the DGT.  For some reason it appeals to me more than the other trem-equipped models.  Still don't like that second volume knob, though.... visually it's hard to get used to, and personally I don't like a 2V, 1T setup.  I suppose I could rewire it so the tone only affects the neck pickup, perhaps.
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Post by: Twinfan on October 20, 2011, 12:18:17 PM
I must admit I think the controls look cack  :lol:  but they're very easy to get used to.  Great sounding guitar though, so I can look past the looking cack thing!

Mine will get its first gig outing next weekend, unless the Private Stock arrives which it may well do...
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Post by: Philly Q on October 20, 2011, 12:57:29 PM
Mine will get its first gig outing next weekend, unless the Private Stock arrives which it may well do...

Looking forward to that NGD thread!  :D
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Post by: Twinfan on October 20, 2011, 01:09:19 PM
You and me both mate!!!

Rumour has it, it may be sat on a pallet of 40-odd guitars heading to Headline Distribution today...
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Post by: dave_mc on October 20, 2011, 04:58:38 PM
ah nice

and yeah i see what you mean about the extra volume knob, it does look a bit crowded
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Post by: Telerocker on October 20, 2011, 08:49:23 PM
It does, but I think you get used to it after a few days playing.
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Post by: Twinfan on October 20, 2011, 10:19:10 PM
It didn't even take that long...
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Post by: Telerocker on October 20, 2011, 11:16:43 PM
It didn't even take that long...

see  :)