Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: juansolo on September 16, 2012, 08:02:57 PM
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Dare I ask what you've bought/ordered to warrant this uber-purge?
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99 days to christmas innit
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Something is up....
I can just see something involving a lot of 0000's after the £ sign...
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It's a biggee :o
PRS have done what I knew they'd do one day, but I didn't know when. They've released my absolute dream/fantasy/perfect guitar so I've got to have it. I need every £1 I can get my hands on before I have to pay the balance when it arrives in about 6-8 weeks. Hence the uber-uber-purge...
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I bet it's a Squier Affinity. With strap and lead, hardly played.
Includes chord book and Fender pick.
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You said the same thing about the ME too! :lol:
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I'll wager it'll be awesome!
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I think you may know, Don ;)
Frank may well do too, if he reads the right forums...
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If it's that expensive perhaps we all ought to pass the hat around the forum and have a 'collection' for you :roll:
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If it's that expensive perhaps we all ought to pass the hat around the forum and have a 'collection' for you :roll:
That would be great, thanks.
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If it's that expensive perhaps we all ought to pass the hat around the forum and have a 'collection' for you :roll:
That would be great, thanks.
Oooo..... tempted to start the collection by taking the Cherry DGT Standard ....... someone buy it quickly :)
Have you opened your own shop recently :lol: :lol: http://store03.prostores.com/servlet/crazydavesmusic/StoreFront?tsetlock=PShSet (http://store03.prostores.com/servlet/crazydavesmusic/StoreFront?tsetlock=PShSet)
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If it's that expensive perhaps we all ought to pass the hat around the forum and have a 'collection' for you :roll:
That would be great, thanks.
I think that's only half joking.... :P
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Have you opened your own shop recently :lol: :lol: http://store03.prostores.com/servlet/crazydavesmusic/StoreFront?tsetlock=PShSet (http://store03.prostores.com/servlet/crazydavesmusic/StoreFront?tsetlock=PShSet)
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I'm curious as to what constitutes Dave's Perfect PRS?
I saw on their site that they are offering a lot more Artist package options. Some kind of customised 408 perhaps? :?
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To think of what you could buy with the money you could get in from the current sales (could amount to 6 or 7k total) nearly makes me sick. I am absolutly confident it will be utterly insane.
And it being something that makes you clear out all that stuff it must be cut from the tree of life itself or something.
I am awaiting the reveal in awe!
And thank god I don´t live in england, cause I would be too tempted to support this with a little purchase XD
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And there was I thinking "Uh-oh... he's just found out he's gonna be a Dad..." :lol:
So... "absolute dream/fantasy/perfect guitar" .... gosh, I find myself wondering what this might be as well...
I'm assuming, seeing as you're such a good customer, that Mr Smith is probably considering delivering it in person? :lol:
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I hear that Mark (Hopkin) is planning a world trip on the back of this sale...
:lol:
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I hear that Mark (Hopkin) is planning a world trip on the back of this sale...
:lol:
He may just buy a yacht, then he doesn't need to bother coming back!
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Ha ha! Not quite Andy, but he will have had a hand in building it and I will get a set of construction pics and photos of Paul play-testing it.
It's not from Mark at Guitars4You, it's such limited production that only World Guitars in the UK are getting one. I've got a deposit on it, one of only 1 in the UK and 3 in Europe, and one of only 7 (I think) worldwide. It's a 408 Signature McCarty with a pernambuco neck, and the only way to get one is to be a high-standing endorsed PRS Artist or to buy one of these "Collection Series V" guitars:
http://www.prsguitars.com/privatestock/gallery/collection5_signaturemccarty_international.php
(http://www.prsguitars.com/privatestock/gallery/img/collection_electric_intl_5a.jpg)
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You know what would be bad, if someone went in the shop and scratched obscene words and dirty drawings on the finish.
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You know what would be bad, if someone went in the shop and scratched obscene words and dirty drawings on the finish.
Frank, have you got issues with me or something? That seems a bit harsh!
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haha, noooo, I don't ever have issues with anyone. I'm just disrespectful all round.
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Ha ha! Not quite Andy, but he will have had a hand in building it and I will get a set of construction pics and photos of Paul play-testing it.
It's not from Mark at Guitars4You, it's such limited production that only World Guitars in the UK are getting one. I've got a deposit on it, one of only 1 in the UK and 3 in Europe, and one of only 7 (I think) worldwide. It's a 408 Signature McCarty with a pernambuco neck, and the only way to get one is to be a high-standing endorsed PRS Artist or to buy one of these "Collection Series V" guitars:
http://www.prsguitars.com/privatestock/gallery/collection5_signaturemccarty_international.php
(http://www.prsguitars.com/privatestock/gallery/img/collection_electric_intl_5a.jpg)
That's an absolute beauty!
How is the wraparound bridge, though? Does it intonate properly?
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Yep, it's fine for 9s, 9.5s and 10s. I'm a 10s user and it's spot on, a very neat design.
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haha, noooo, I don't ever have issues with anyone. I'm just disrespectful all round.
:lol: Punk attitude huh? ;)
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:lol: Punk attitude huh? ;)
Yes, pretty much. Just don't take anything I say seriously, ever.
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:D
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You know what would be bad, if someone went in the shop and scratched obscene words and dirty drawings on the finish.
I think the chances of this one ever being on display in the shop are very slim!
Edit: Just entranced by the pictures. I do like that colour! Even the mix-and-match "hybrid" gold/nickel/polished aluminium hardware, which I was never keen on, is starting to grow on me, it goes well with the darker colours.
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Come on Phil, there must be something about it you don't like? :lol:
Except the price of course......
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Come on Phil, there must be something about it you don't like? :lol:
Except the price of course......
Well, I'm never going to be won over by those mini switches....
Not 100% sure about the inlays..... but I can't say I actually object to them! :lol:
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You'd better put some straplocks on this beauty! You don't want any dings for something as stupid as a strap falling of.
Also, that fretboard is stunning!
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Yep, I fit Schallers as standard on all my guitars :)
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Yep, I fit Schallers as standard on all my guitars :)
For the price i'd want them on there as a standard option. Along with a lifetime transferable warranty that includes free setups for life :D
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Yep, I fit Schallers as standard on all my guitars :)
For the price i'd want them on there as a standard option.
To be fair, the PRS strap buttons (aka Fender bass string retainers!) hold a strap pretty well - it's pretty hard to fit the strap onto them in the first place.
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That guitar is gorgeous, I'll start saving for when it hits seconds out :lol:
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If this is anything to go by price-wise, then I'd better sell the kids, never mind start saving!!!
http://worldguitars.co.uk/series-iv-brent-mason-studio/
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You know what would be bad, if someone went in the shop and scratched obscene words and dirty drawings on the finish.
I think the chances of this one ever being on display in the shop are very slim!
Edit: Just entranced by the pictures. I do like that colour! Even the mix-and-match "hybrid" gold/nickel/polished aluminium hardware, which I was never keen on, is starting to grow on me, it goes well with the darker colours.
Don't touch it, don't even look at it :lol:
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You'd better put some straplocks on this beauty! You don't want any dings for something as stupid as a strap falling of.
Also, that fretboard is stunning!
That happened to my Les Paul a couple of weeks back, I still cry now at what could've happened. Only smashed tuning pegs, got off lightly.
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Dave's into all the computer malarky isn't he? Has something happened to Bill Gates?
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Surely there will be an SE version of this. Is that right Dave? :lol:
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The guitar is gorgeous, and I bet the build will be flawless, but why does it mix gold and silver (nickel?) hardware? That's just... odd. I don't like that (but it's probably just me).
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The "hybrid" hardware is an option on some PRS guitars, I didn't like it at first but it's grown on me a lot.
Don't know why they started. Maybe because they've been using a lot of unplated brass and aluminium parts in recent years, which gives that "gold/silver" look (at least until the brass tarnishes), and perhaps it grew on them too! :lol:
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Nothing changes! ;)
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Dave's into all the computer malarky isn't he? Has something happened to Bill Gates?
First Steve Jobs, now Bill Gates - Dave will stop at nothing till he owns all private stock PRS' :lol:
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Nothing changes! ;)
Nope! Good to see you Shobet :D
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Dave's into all the computer malarky isn't he? Has something happened to Bill Gates?
First Steve Jobs, now Bill Gates - Dave will stop at nothing till he owns all private stock PRS' :lol:
If it's 1 of those PRS Collection Guitars then it's even higher (by about 6 or £7k) than a lowly private stock! :lol:
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I really can't stop looking at that guitar. Will the guitar be kept in a case or are you gonna play her?
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This will undoubtedly be the longest post I have ever made on this forum. I regret that it will also be my last. No, I do NOT have an issue with Twinfan or anyone else on this forum.
I have a massive issue with Paul Reed Smith.
This post ...
I really can't stop looking at that guitar. Will the guitar be kept in a case or are you gonna play her?
... says everything.
Yes, the guitar looks very pretty. But I don't believe it is worthy of being called a guitar. Guitars are tools, they're made to be played. Otherwise what use are they?
Until PRS came along with their guitars which were never designed to be played the answer would have been "no use at all". Now we have PRS and the answer is "for cynical investment purposes, to lock in a bank vault and for occasional looking at".
A very expensive glass hammer. An investment opportunity. But not a guitar.
So yes, it's a very pretty thing, it has been produced on the very highest quality CNC lathes and it will probably sound good if you ever dare to play it. It's just not a guitar. It's a sculpture of a guitar built never to be played, marketed at accountants, an artificial "vintage guitar" for polishing and looking at.
THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMN81_PIhQI) is a guitar. I get more questions about that video than any other and more compliments about the tone of the guitar than you'd believe.
And it cost me £70. And I gave it away. But in the meantime I quite enjoyed playing it. And I never polished it once.
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Its a shame that Frank has decided to leave, but all of the evidence of Dave's previous PRS purchases (and that of Francine) point towards the fact that it will be played, as TF even gigged the Modern Eagle iirc.
The guitar may not be used and abused on stage every night, but if you play a guitar frequently and it brings you enjoyment to do so then price isn't a consideration (generally speaking, if i bought a guitar of that value i'd be castrated :lol:)
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Blimey Frank, that's a strong reaction! :o
My guitars get played, as anyone who's met me knows. They generally get thrust into the hands of visitors as I like to know what other people think of them! My Modern Eagle was gigged regularly until recently and has tarnished pickup covers, dirty frets, a couple of dings and a bit of buckle rash. My blue Private Stock Signature has replaced it for live use and has buckle rash, a massive ding in the lower edge, scratches in the top finish etc.
This new Collection V will be used regularly but probably not gigged, mainly due to the value and rarity of it. Replacing it would be nigh-on impossible. It'll be my #1 for playing at home where I can appreciate it better, and where I actually play guitar the most.
I will use it and enjoy it, because for me it's all about the tone and feel of that particular spec. I'll be interested to see what other folk think of it too :)
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Final word from me on this, I just want to respond to this:
Until PRS came along with their guitars which were never designed to be played........
PRS guitars have always been designed to be played, period. If you speak directly to Paul, or listen to his interviews, or other people talking about him you'll see he is as passionate as anyone can be about making a guitar that plays and sounds as good as it possibly can be. I have never heard him talking about his guitars purely as collection pieces or pieces of art, although he understands some buyers see them as that. That market and perception has come about via a segment of buyers, not Paul Reed Smith himself.
Why does a "tool" have to be ugly to be good? It doesn't.
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You can use this argument about many things. Nick Mason of Pink Floyd has a collection of old racing cars. Which he still races, properly, competitively. There are many people out there who'd take a £20m Ferrari 250 GTO and wrap it up in cotton wool and look at just how pretty it is. However it was built to be driven and raced, which he does.
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Yep, I fit Schallers as standard on all my guitars :)
For the price i'd want them on there as a standard option. Along with a lifetime transferable warranty that includes free setups for life :D
Not transferable, but I've just noticed it looks like I get the setups :lol:
http://worldguitars.co.uk/news/our-legendary-setup-free-for-life/
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Dave, what's the actual name for the colour of that model?
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It's a new one: Blue Tourmaline with Smoked Burst
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It's a new one: Blue Tourmaline with Smoked Burst
Sounds like a fish dish.
It's a very pretty guitar but I haven't yet heard a 408 demo that's made me get them. Dave, can you suggest a really good demo that might make me see the light? I'm still too much of a DGT person I think. :)
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The Bryan Ewald demo here is probably the best I've heard:
http://www.prsguitars.com/408/
There seem to be two schools re. 408s:
School 1
They don't like the look of them, the toggle switches, the fact you can't change them for something else, the lack of separate volumes etc. These guys usually prefer more vintage tones and want a Strat and a Les Paul in one guitar. For them, and for David Grissom himself, the DGT is the super-versatile guitar they like.
School 2
Aren't into vintage stuff, like things that look and sound a little "different", like their pickups on the slightly hotter side of PAF, hate weedy split tones and are after a more modern sounding Tele and Les Paul Special in one guitar. For these guys, like me, the 408s are be-all and end-all.
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Final word from me on this, I just want to respond to this:
Until PRS came along with their guitars which were never designed to be played........
PRS guitars have always been designed to be played, period. If you speak directly to Paul, or listen to his interviews, or other people talking about him you'll see he is as passionate as anyone can be about making a guitar that plays and sounds as good as it possibly can be. I have never heard him talking about his guitars purely as collection pieces or pieces of art, although he understands some buyers see them as that. That market and perception has come about via a segment of buyers, not Paul Reed Smith himself.
Why does a "tool" have to be ugly to be good? It doesn't.
Agreed with all of the above. Especially the last part.
Frank's statements (and flouncy exit) are ridiculous. I've never understood why people get so worked up about this subject anyway, but on this occasion we're seeing quite ludicrous amounts of inverse snobbery. And why is all the hate directed at PRS? I've never seen a rant about a Strat or a Les Paul (or perhaps more relevantly a Suhr, Collings, Tyler, Huber, Tom Anderson...) or whatever being not "worthy of being called a guitar".
Frank, just go and buy another Strat.
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There seem to be two schools re. 408s:
School 1
They don't like the look of them, the toggle switches, the fact you can't change them for something else, the lack of separate volumes etc. These guys usually prefer more vintage tones and want a Strat and a Les Paul in one guitar. For them, and for David Grissom himself, the DGT is the super-versatile guitar they like.
School 2
Aren't into vintage stuff, like things that look and sound a little "different", like their pickups on the slightly hotter side of PAF, hate weedy split tones and are after a more modern sounding Tele and Les Paul Special in one guitar. For these guys, like me, the 408s are be-all and end-all.
Thanks for that, it does rather chime in with what my ears tell me. I don't think they're for me but I do admire PRS for trying something different and pushing the boundaries.
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My thoughts exactly - finding something that traditional-yet-novel in the guitar world is pretty darn rare...
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I don't understand the feelings either.
The guitar doesn't do much for me but I can see the fantastic quality. The price is very high but probably justifiable in many ways.
Cars and guitars at this level share alot as has been mentioned.
Somebody may choose to spend a fortune on a Maybach (which to me is a tarted up Merc) but it's their money and they will own an incredible car.
I'd want a Ferrari.
Dave, enjoy the fruits of your labours and buy what you like.
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That Bryan Ewald bloke does good demos - I watched his DGT Standard clip the other day and thought it was much better than the J Hayes one.... and David Grissom's own clip!
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Thanks Afghan :)
Bryan Ewald does indeed do great demos!
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Geez, didn't mean to start a beef here... :?
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I'm not really a fan of any guitar that looks like that, but you know, I do like my PRS. a great man once said "when in rome"
If you've got beef then make a sandwich.
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I'm not really a fan of any guitar that looks like that, but you know, I do like my PRS. a great man once said "when in rome"
If you've got beef then make a sandwich.
I've got wood.
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When have you not got wood?
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He's certainly got more than his fair share of wood.
(My own wood, of course, is under the bed)
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My wood is cheap and not as disirable as either Twinfan's or Philly's... :(
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my wood has some serious burl
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My wood is touring Gloucestershire in the hands of a man called Alex.
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Enjoy your new guitar Twinfan,its a beaut.I didn't even realise guitars cost more than 3 or 4k (apart from vintage) until i read some posts here and even that is pretty dear, but as someone else pointed out, electric guitars are still pretty cheap when looking at top notch musical intruments in general.Oh and expense is reletive.
Great vid frank if your secretely watching, 63k hits....blimey
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My wood is cheap and not as disirable as either Twinfan's or Philly's... :(
But is your wood meant to be played with? :D
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I don't understand the feelings either.
The guitar doesn't do much for me but I can see the fantastic quality. The price is very high but probably justifiable in many ways.
Cars and guitars at this level share alot as has been mentioned.
Somebody may choose to spend a fortune on a Maybach (which to me is a tarted up Merc) but it's their money and they will own an incredible car.
I'd want a Ferrari.
Dave, enjoy the fruits of your labours and buy what you like.
A more suitable car analogy I'd have thought is that one bloke might have £150k in a Porsche GT3 RS 4.0 to use on track. It's a cracking thing with a bloody brilliant engine. But eye-wateringly expensive. The next bloke has a Noble M400 that cost maybe £30k. Both cars go around a circuit in a very similar manner. The only real difference between them is that one of them has a shitee load more disposable income that he chooses to spend on the hobby he loves.
I really don't like this envy culture we have in this country. For some reason it's seen negatively for people to spend the money they've earned on nice things. Which is bullshiteeee. Indeed who's to say it's wrong to buy a nice car and just polish it or to buy a nice guitar and hang it on a wall as art. If that's what someone wants to do then so be it. I can live with that. I certainly wouldn't let it bother me.
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My wood is cheap and not as disirable as either Twinfan's or Philly's... :(
But is your wood meant to be played with? :D
It may be a slightly warped relic but it can still bring a smile to my face in the right hands...
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Did Frank just leave the forum?
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Did Frank just leave the forum?
I think it's a protest against the 1% of the guitar playing population that owns PRS Private stock
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/CheHigh.jpg/250px-CheHigh.jpg)
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I don't understand the feelings either.
The guitar doesn't do much for me but I can see the fantastic quality. The price is very high but probably justifiable in many ways.
Cars and guitars at this level share alot as has been mentioned.
Somebody may choose to spend a fortune on a Maybach (which to me is a tarted up Merc) but it's their money and they will own an incredible car.
I'd want a Ferrari.
Dave, enjoy the fruits of your labours and buy what you like.
If Dave fancies sharing the fruits of his labour, I'd happily baby sit for a while 8)
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Did Frank just leave the forum?
I think it's a protest against the 1% of the guitar playing population that owns PRS Private stock
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/CheHigh.jpg/250px-CheHigh.jpg)
I'm staying as a protest - let it not be said I run with the crowd :lol:
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Is Frank in "The Popular Front" or "The People's Front"...
I'm definately in "The Popular People's Front"....
...Splitters!
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Did Frank just leave the forum?
I think it's a protest against the 1% of the guitar playing population that owns PRS Private stock
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/CheHigh.jpg/250px-CheHigh.jpg)
50 Che's of Grey?
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Did Frank just leave the forum?
I think it's a protest against the 1% of the guitar playing population that owns PRS Private stock
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/CheHigh.jpg/250px-CheHigh.jpg)
50 Che's of Grey?
The pain....the incredible pain in the pun-center...
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Did Frank just leave the forum?
I think it's a protest against the 1% of the guitar playing population that owns PRS Private stock
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/CheHigh.jpg/250px-CheHigh.jpg)
50 Che's of Grey?
I think I wet myself
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I know we go off topic alot, but hell's teeththis is a belter! :lol:
Love the pun, Jon!
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I really don't like this envy culture we have in this country. For some reason it's seen negatively for people to spend the money they've earned on nice things. Which is bullshiteeeeeeeeee.
It certainly is. Mrs Twinfan works VERY hard in her job and has just picked up her new car, which is very nice indeed but it's not a Noble/Ferrari/Porsche etc. She never mentioned it to anyone before getting it, and only talks about it if asked.
One of our neighbours is now blanking her, and won't even say hello or return a smile :? What's that all about?
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I don't know how this will work in print (I get Guitar World using electrickery on my iPad now) but the current issue has a free PRS supplement with it. Haven't read it in detail yet, and it may not have much in the way of hot news, but there are some pretty pictures and a bit of discussion on recent PRS pickups. Might be worth a gander?
Actually, I think if you have an iPad you can get the Guitar World app (free) and download the supplement for nothing too.
Anyway back to the point at issue, Jonathan, you should be ashamed of yourself. :)
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Dave, id really like to take that single cut off you, but it would probably take me a couple of years to get the funds together :( don't think that Natwest will let me get a loan for it!
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Probably not Oli :(
Cheers Andrew, I'll see if I can get hold of it...
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I can understand Dave wanting nice things.. Those PRS Private Stock etc etc don't float my boat in the slightest, but one day I hope to be able to save enough for a really spectacular vintage Flying V - a '58, '67 or a Medallion.
Alot of people wouldn't have to balls to put down cash for something luxurious like a PRS private stock in the current times - money that I'm sure could easily be spent in a sensible way. So actually I kind of admire Dave for getting them.
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I'm not sure having "balls" is the way I'd describe it gwEm! :lol:
I'm a live-in-the-now kind of person, and right now that guitar is my idea of perfection. You can forget your '59 LPs, '56 Strats or '51 Teles, to me this is numero uno, top dog and the guitar above all others I'd like to own, play and enjoy. I may never get the chance to buy it again, so I have to sacrifice a bunch of stuff to get it. I don't have money like that lying around, and I'm juggling a bunch of things to get access to that amount of cash. My credit card will be looking very, VERY bloated afterwards believe me. :o
Our house is in need of interior cosmetic attention, and the plan to do that has now been put back to allow me to get this guitar. Mrs Twinfan is an absoulte legend, with the patience of a saint, and she understands that I love my hobby and that this is a dream purchase above all others. She was even there when I asked Paul Smith directly (when he was in Manchester earlier this year) if he would be producing a guitar of this spec, and he said not even his employees know what's in the pipeline so he couldn't tell me. I did say to him that if he built one I'd buy it, and she remembers the conversation.
Once I've got it, I have promised to clear the debt and then sort the house out. That will mean the end of guitar related purchases for a long time with the exception maintenance things - strings, valves, cables etc. I've said to myself I won't buy anything before and failed miserably, but in this instance I've promised Mrs Twinfan. I will have access to some spectacular instruments to pas the time with though, so it's not all bad ;)
Basically, I think it's time for me to get off the rollercoaster.
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I don't know how this will work in print (I get Guitar World using electrickery on my iPad now) but the current issue has a free PRS supplement with it. Haven't read it in detail yet, and it may not have much in the way of hot news, but there are some pretty pictures and a bit of discussion on recent PRS pickups. Might be worth a gander?
Is it the issue with Billy Gibbons and Dan Auerbach on the cover? There's no PRS supplement in the print edition. :(
(Unless it fell out or I somehow skipped right past it... :oops: )
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Ooo dear, I look away for 10 minutes and crazy sh1t happens! :lol:
A guitar's a guitar, whether it gets played or not, whether it cost little or much. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and stuff costs what someone is prepared to pay.
I'm sure this is gonna be a monster of an instrument, Dave. Mebbe (ok definitely :lol:) not what I'd go for, but if it floats your boat, and you can afford it, and YOU are happy that it's worth it... that's all that matters...
And people getting shirty because someone's bought a new car!!!... what a load of @rse.
I dunno, people is people... what moves them is what moves them... and it's all in their heads, not yours... Unless you need something out of them, after a certain point there's no use in you worrying about what's going on their heads...
Enjoy this geetar and flashing it around, that's what it's for :D
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No flashing around from me mate - I'm not that kind of guy.
I shall certainly enjoy it though :D
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I really don't like this envy culture we have in this country. For some reason it's seen negatively for people to spend the money they've earned on nice things. Which is bullshiteeeeeeeeeeee.
It certainly is. Mrs Twinfan works VERY hard in her job and has just picked up her new car, which is very nice indeed but it's not a Noble/Ferrari/Porsche etc. She never mentioned it to anyone before getting it, and only talks about it if asked.
One of our neighbours is now blanking her, and won't even say hello or return a smile :? What's that all about?
When people ask what car I drive I always say the old Merc and don't mention the Porker. People can be surprisingly funny about it. What annoys me is that no one would bat an eyelid if it was a new top end Mondeo. Which is about what it's currently worth. It's just this reverse snobbery that's prevalent at the moment.
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I'm not sure having "balls" is the way I'd describe it gwEm! :lol:
I'm a live-in-the-now kind of person, and right now that guitar is my idea of perfection.
Likewise. My reasons for it I've mentioned before here. It's why I have the nice cars I have. It's also why I've taken a year off to concentrate on things other than work (up to this point I've never not worked). Sure realistically getting another job at the end of it might be interesting, but that's not the point. Life is for living, enjoy it now while you can.
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I don't know how this will work in print (I get Guitar World using electrickery on my iPad now) but the current issue has a free PRS supplement with it. Haven't read it in detail yet, and it may not have much in the way of hot news, but there are some pretty pictures and a bit of discussion on recent PRS pickups. Might be worth a gander?
Is it the issue with Billy Gibbons and Dan Auerbach on the cover? There's no PRS supplement in the print edition. :(
(Unless it fell out or I somehow skipped right past it... :oops: )
No it's the one with Green Day on the cover. November I believe.
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Ah, makes sense. I guess you get the electronic edition when it comes out in the US, long before the print version reaches the UK.
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Ah, makes sense. I guess you get the electronic edition when it comes out in the US, long before the print version reaches the UK.
Yup, I believe so. It showed up late last night so I'm guessing that's the earliest it would be available anywhere. Might not even be on news-stands in the States yet.
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Oh, forgot to ask, but what exactly is pernambuco?
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It's a Brazilian wood that's used mainly for violin bows. It's becoming rarer and is now endangered I think, and getting hold of it for guitar making purposes is pretty tough - especially the size needed for neck blanks.
It varies a lot in grade, but the good stuff is very, very resonant. I've got a pernambuco neck on my Private Stock SC245 and that guitar just rings and sings. In a very rough test another PS with a mahogany neck sustained a bass E string for around 35-40 seconds. The SC245 did over a minute.
It also seems to have loads of harmonics going on too.
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Because of the price point of PRS', they did (still do to some degree) have that image of being guitars for well-heeled professionals who like to be weekend warriors (and can barely play a note) - it does rub some people up the wrong way. I've seen such blokes in action in the pubs, thousands of pounds worth of gear and struggling to play a 12 bar blues with any conviction. Suppose it stems back to earning your stripes as a guitarist and being worthy of the instrument.
As far as I'm concerned, what someone does with their money they've worked their arse off for is their own business. Some spend it on cars, some going out Fri/Sat/Sun and pissing it up the wall - whatever your poison, its your money and nobody else's business.
I'm always stoney broke and wish I had the kind of cash available that Dave does to buy my dream guitars, but I certainly don't begrudge Dave having what he's got (why the hell should I).
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Cheers Ian, it's nice to see I'm not rubbing folk up the wrong way. I did wonder whether to say what I was buying here on the forum or not, but decided enough folks had met me to know that I'm not some doctor or lawyer with a trophy in need of displaying ;)
I'm very aware that I'm in a fortunate financial position right now. I can guarantee that won't always be the case, and not having kids certainly helps with the disposable income thing.
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Why do lawyers always get a bad rap for collecting guitars? I am a lawyer (although trying to check out of that particular Hotel California at present) and my guitars live next to my sofa where they get played all the time.
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Why do lawyers always get a bad rap for collecting guitars? I am a lawyer (although trying to check out of that particular Hotel California at present) and my guitars live next to my sofa where they get played all the time.
I guess the term 'laywer guitar' or 'dentist blues' is a somewhat unfair stereotype. I think HTH explains what is meant by that very well though ;) and I'm sure you know what is meant too.. From the BKP meetups, I wouldn't put either you or Dave in that bracket.
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Because of the price point of PRS', they did (still do to some degree) have that image of being guitars for well-heeled professionals who like to be weekend warriors (and can barely play a note) - it does rub some people up the wrong way. I've seen such blokes in action in the pubs, thousands of pounds worth of gear and struggling to play a 12 bar blues with any conviction. Suppose it stems back to earning your stripes as a guitarist and being worthy of the instrument.
I'm a very moderately-heeled professional (I suppose), certainly not a weekend warrior :lol: . And I can barely play a note. I buy PRS guitars, I buy Gibsons.... I buy Epiphones, I buy Grecos. I just like guitars.
The thing is, isn't the important aspect of all this that those guys are just doing something they enjoy? They wouldn't be any more or less "worthy" if they had Squier Strats and ropey old Carlsbros or Peavey Bandits. They have good gear because it just so happens they can afford it, they're not necessarily trying to show off and say "look what I've got".
It's the inverse snobbery thing again - if our hypothetical pub band were two plumbers and a postman with cheap gear, they might still be totally unable to play a 12-bar blues but they'd never attract the kind of contempt our PRS-toting lawyers do. In fact, they'd almost certainly be regarded as a good bunch of lads. But really, what's the difference?
I'm not sure I even believe in "earning your stripes" or "being worthy of the instrument", but if I did I don't think they have anything to do with what gear you choose/can afford to buy.
(Not arguing with you, Ian.... just ruminating on the points you made! :) )
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All good points Phil, especially the band stuff. I gig with two solicitors and a teacher, luckily we can string the odd classic rock track together OK ;)
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Well, anyone can do anything they like with their money I guess.. but no one likes watching a gig where the guitarist has 1000s of pounds worth in gear and knocks out lengthy and passionless blues solos. I've played on the same night as a band like that, and it definitely wound me up. But yeah, maybe it was wrongful jealousy.. or boredom ;)
(and we all know you can play just fine Philly, so stop posing ;) )
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Yeah Phil - your better than me. By the 'earn your stripes' criteria, I should play a Hondo!
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(and we all know you can play just fine Philly, so stop posing ;) )
:lol:
I really can't.
Well, anyone can do anything they like with their money I guess.. but no one likes watching a gig where the guitarist has 1000s of pounds worth in gear and knocks out lengthy and passionless blues solos. I've played on the same night as a band like that, and it definitely wound me up. But yeah, maybe it was wrongful jealousy.. or boredom ;)
Yeah, but those solos would be no less lengthy or passionless if he was playing a Columbus Les Paul copy! :P
I think sometimes that these debates really have nothing to do with PRS guitars, in fact they boil down to everyday social prejudice. Some people are deeply resentful of professionals who they regard as immensely rich and arrogant without a care in the world, whereas anyone working class automatically qualifies as "salt of the earth". Others see anyone in a suit as a hard-working, responsible member of society and everyone else as a layabout or benefits cheat. Both perspectives being equally stupid generalisations.
And I have to say that musicians, whilst not generally stupid people, like to think of themselves as "street" (whether they are or not) and therefore tend to be contemptuous of the "suits". :|
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I have nothing but respect for "professionals" ... When you need a "job" well done, sometimes it's worth paying for. :P
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(and we all know you can play just fine Philly, so stop posing ;) )
:lol:
I really can't.
Well, anyone can do anything they like with their money I guess.. but no one likes watching a gig where the guitarist has 1000s of pounds worth in gear and knocks out lengthy and passionless blues solos. I've played on the same night as a band like that, and it definitely wound me up. But yeah, maybe it was wrongful jealousy.. or boredom ;)
I think sometimes that these debates really have nothing to do with PRS guitars, in fact they boil down to everyday social prejudice. Some people are deeply resentful of professionals who they regard as immensely rich and arrogant without a care in the world, whereas anyone working class automatically qualifies as "salt of the earth".
This. Bang on.
I used to work with a girl who thought that if someone was 'salt of the earth' they could do no wrong and their behaviour was always excused because 'they were a good lad/girl'. She was also one of those types who was proud of her own ignorance and lack of intelligence.
Back to the topic at hand. Who cares what you're playing, who is playing it or what you're playing on it. The main thing is: 'are you having fun?'
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Back to the topic at hand. Who cares what you're playing, who is playing it or what you're playing on it. The main thing is: 'are you having fun?'
This. x1000. ;)
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Because of the price point of PRS', they did (still do to some degree) have that image of being guitars for well-heeled professionals who like to be weekend warriors (and can barely play a note) - it does rub some people up the wrong way. I've seen such blokes in action in the pubs, thousands of pounds worth of gear and struggling to play a 12 bar blues with any conviction. Suppose it stems back to earning your stripes as a guitarist and being worthy of the instrument.
This seems to be mainly a musician thing. I think it comes from most muso's being stoney broke. Hence the intrinsic value of most guitar gear is what you can sell it on for when you run out of brass ;)
Our perpetually broke muso has practiced, they've earned their stripes then some 'rich' professional of some description (they usually complain about doctors doing it. Doctors, such selfish bar-stewards...) that dabbles with playing comes along and buys a really swan guitar and plays it badly... Something they feel they could get so much more out of, and they probably could. But that doesn't mean that the Doc shouldn't have it. The world doesn't owe you a ten grand guitar because you're awesome.
It's the envy thing that I have such a big problem with. This works for cars also (I keep coming back to this as there are so many parallels at MUCH higher values). The number of badly piloted super cars I see being punted around tracks is quite high. Just because you can buy a Ferrari, it doesn't magically imbue you with the driving prowess of Fernando Alonso.
Do I have a problem with that? Of course not, because if I was lucky to have that kind of brass I'd spunk tonnes of cash on cars too. Indeed, instead of being bitter, go natter to them. They're likely enthusiasts just with busy lives. Get a ride in their car. The fact you can drive rings around them in a 2 grand MX-5 is irrelevant. That you can do that is cool in itself, be happy in your ability.
The grim reality is, being a good driver or a muso usually doesn't pay. Other things do. That doesn't mean you can't do those other things, make a lot of money and dabble in driving/playing. We shouldn't be envious of these people, we should celebrate their success. Unless they're w**kers, there's a lot of them about to, just don't judge them by the car / guitar they buy.
I'm rambling.
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I like to think that if I were to walk into a room and see 3 guitars and was unaware of their price I'd still pick the same one.
PRS Private Stock
59 Les Paul
BC Rich Gunslinger Retro
I'll have the BC Rich! :o
By the sound of it that's what Dave/Twinfan would do with this PRS.
Follow your heart.
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One thing I've always noticed is that the best musicians I know really couldn't give a flying $%&# what they're playing through (except for keyboard players, but that's a different thing entirely). They'll just play the shite out of it and have fun no matter what. They may have a PREFERENCE for certain things but most of the time they don't care.
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And I have to say that musicians, whilst not generally stupid people, like to think of themselves as "street" (whether they are or not) and therefore tend to be contemptuous of the "suits". :|
I like to refer to people to who have this attitude as 'f**king idiots', it saves typing. Let's face it, most of them with this attitude are either not the brightest bulb in the pack or have all the mental maturity of a 16 year old.
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Everyone's different. Some guitarists don't know what brand strings they're using and will play absolutely anything (Seasick Steve) others will want every last detail sorting (Joe Bonamassa, Eric Johnson).
Neither approach is wrong, just different.
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Everyone's different. Some guitarists don't know what brand strings they're using and will play absolutely anything (Seasick Steve) others will want every last detail sorting (Joe Bonamassa, Eric Johnson).
Neither approach is wrong, just different.
I'd completely forgotten about those two. I'm not really a fan of either so I guess I can be excused.
Anyway, I hope you have fun with your new PRS when it comes. They're not something I'd normally gravitate to but I certainly wouldn't say no if someone was offering one for free!
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rock is meant to be about sticking it to "the man", and the guitar a symbol of rebellion.. therefore (some people might think) an expensive guitar would seem like a bit of an insult to the rock ideals.
these days though, i think middle class professionals need to rebel a bit themselves. i certainly still want to stick it to the man!
(this ignores of course other styles than rock can be played on the guitar)
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rock is meant to be about sticking it to "the man", ....
i certainly still want to stick it to the man!
Sorry dude, you're on your own there...
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rock is meant to be about sticking it to "the man", and the guitar a symbol of rebellion.. therefore an expensive guitar would seem like a bit of an insult to the rock ideals.
Punk was about sticking it to the man.
Rock was about getting girls/laid ;-)
i think middle class professionals need to rebel a bit themselves
Curious to know what you mean by a middle class professional?
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Cheers Ian, it's nice to see I'm not rubbing folk up the wrong way. I did wonder whether to say what I was buying here on the forum or not, but decided enough folks had met me to know that I'm not some doctor or lawyer with a trophy in need of displaying ;)
I'm very aware that I'm in a fortunate financial position right now. I can guarantee that won't always be the case, and not having kids certainly helps with the disposable income thing.
I'd always just assumed you were :lol:
Just ribbing you Dave, can't resist 8)
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rock is meant to be about sticking it to "the man", and the guitar a symbol of rebellion.. therefore an expensive guitar would seem like a bit of an insult to the rock ideals.
Punk was about sticking it to the man.
Rock was about getting girls/laid ;-)
Yup, that's the bit I like.. :P
(http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/img/other/dyuha/bcr2.jpg)
(http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/145/b6836c1400574ebe818641df5c2f5fb3/l.jpg)
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(http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/145/b6836c1400574ebe818641df5c2f5fb3/l.jpg)
Apparently there is a guitar hidden somewhere in this picture, I can't see it for the life of me :lol:
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That outfit just can't be practical.
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(a) Cheers Ian, it's nice to see I'm not rubbing folk up the wrong way. I did wonder whether to say what I was buying here on the forum or not, but decided enough folks had met me to know that I'm not some doctor or lawyer with a trophy in need of displaying ;)
(b) I'm very aware that I'm in a fortunate financial position right now. I can guarantee that won't always be the case, and not having kids certainly helps with the disposable income thing.
(a) I don't care what you buy (I don't mean that in an uncaring, "I don't give a shiteee about you" kind of way, I mean it doesn't annoy me). if you like it and can afford it, go for it.
I would say, though, that it doesn't much matter to me if lawyers or doctors have good guitars either- are they not allowed to rock out? :lol:
regarding the guitar- i'm sure it's killer, it definitely looks badass.
(b) that's a good point. I have a lot of respect for people who get married and/or have kids, and i realise and appreciate that they have a lot more important demands on their money than I do. But at the same time, if they start acting like I'm awful for buying these things, a swift, "No-one forced you to get married and/or have kids" comeback will be forthcoming :lol:
it was the same at school or university- (some) people acted like i was awful for having nice things. Now, I'm well aware i was probably handed money more easily than them too (though plenty of their parents were just as rich as mine, if not richer), but they wanted to be able to afford to go drinking every weekend while I didn't. I have no problem what you spend your money on (within reason... obviously contract killers are probably not the most ideal things to spend your money on), but if you choose to spend it on A, don't act like I'm awful if I can afford B if I don't spend it on A.
wow that sounds like more of a rant than it was meant to be. :lol: Basically i came in to say, "Nice guitar" :lol:
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rock is meant to be about sticking it to "the man", and the guitar a symbol of rebellion.. therefore an expensive guitar would seem like a bit of an insult to the rock ideals.
Punk was about sticking it to the man.
Rock was about getting girls/laid ;-)
i think middle class professionals need to rebel a bit themselves
Curious to know what you mean by a middle class professional?
Lots of lyrics in all kinds of rock about freedom and protest. But yeah, its all about the lasses of course.
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rock is meant to be about sticking it to "the man", and the guitar a symbol of rebellion.. therefore (some people might think) an expensive guitar would seem like a bit of an insult to the rock ideals.
Well, yes, kind of.......
But.....
What guitars do people in rock bands actually play?
Unless you're talking garage rock, where they'll probably be playing genuinely cheap guitars, they might have modern Ibanez/Jackson/ESP/BC Rich metal guitars (pretty expensive) or, most likely, they'll have Gibsons and Fenders, quite possibly even vintage ones (expensive).
So people following "rock ideals" do play expensive guitars. Just not ones which look obviously expensive. Is that PRS' true crime?
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I like to think that if I were to walk into a room and see 3 guitars and was unaware of their price I'd still pick the same one.
PRS Private Stock
59 Les Paul
BC Rich Gunslinger Retro
I'll have the BC Rich! :o
By the sound of it that's what Dave/Twinfan would do with this PRS.
Follow your heart.
I'd have the '59 Les Paul, no question.
Unless it was over eight pounds, in which case (like a runner up on The Weakest Link) I'd leave with nothing.
Realistically, of course, I'd take the LP (hefty or not) and flog it (thereby making an all-too-rare profit!)
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Talking of '59 Les Pauls, there's a great article by Tony Bacon in Guitarist this month about what would you do if you had a time machine and cold go back and buy a load of guitars in '59. The biggest issue being provenance when you come to sell it in 2012.....
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bit late to this:
So guitars should be like tools, what a silly thing to say - hmm, has anyone looked at the high end tool market recently
is it wrong of me to want one of these:
http://www.axminster.co.uk/lie-nielsen-lie-nielsen-crosscut-panel-saw-prod811239/
when one of these at 95% less will do the job reasonably well
http://www.diy.com/nav/fix/handtools-storage-workwear/handtools/saws/carpentry_saws/Stanley-Heavy-Duty-Saw-Black-Yellow-9676990
its no different to someone wanting a US custom shop PRS over an SE
now when i want to entertain myself or use up some free time i have the option of going out to my workshop and playing with my tools, or going to my guitars and playing with them. does it really matter how good i am at one or the other when i am deciding how I want to spend my spare money/time.
maybe we just need to start looking at tools as musical instruments
how about a great bit of musical saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2VDk6rQ4Ts
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It's a new one: Blue Tourmaline with Smoked Burst
Surely that should be Blue Twinfanline with smoked burst
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If rock is about sticking to the man - what is country music about?
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If rock is about sticking to the man - what is country music about?
Sticking it to a close relative? :P
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If rock is about sticking to the man - what is country music about?
Sticking it to a close relative? :P
:lol: Beat me to it! I was going to say "sticking it to your sister"....
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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If rock is about sticking to the man - what is country music about?
Sticking it to a close relative? :P
:lol: Beat me to it! I was going to say "sticking it to your sister"....
When your sister leaves you "you gots the Blues"
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oh loorrd, ma sister done left me fo another maaan,
oh loorrd, maa sister done left me fo another maaan,
Whats a brother s'posed to do lord,
when he aint got his sister in his haaaands.
thank you!
A little number I call 'luvin yo sista blues'.
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What's ironic is that Frank would have really enjoyed this thread. :? :D
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Well, in his place, I fancy a new Strat - this one at present (although this is subject to change):
http://www.dv247.com/guitars/fender-american-vintage-59-stratocaster-electric-guitar-faded-sonic-blue--101298
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Wow, just catching up on this thread. My view on this is quite simple, I buy what I want with my cash(well I did when I had some... lol) and I couldn't care less what others thought as long as it was what I wanted. On the other hand, when other people buy the things they want I am genuinely happy for them regardless of what it is. What I don't get is when people rag on someone else's good fortune, for the most part I blame the green eyed monster. Whilst that guitar is absolutely awesome and beautiful, personally I would still take Dave's Modern Eagle and I think Dave knows that, but I think it's fantastic that he is getting what he believes to be his dream guitar... doesn't matter to me if it's a £500 guitar or a £50,000 guitar.
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Yep, I know you'd take the ME mate.
You'd have to fight Ian Price for it though I think ;)
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If you put the ME up as the prize then it's on.... where's Ian! :lol:
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You should really be buying this instead of girly PRS' Dave...
http://www.dawsons.co.uk/gibson-collectors-choice-4-electric-guitar-sandy
If you don't like it, thats cool, however I effin love it - let her stay with me, think of it as a retirement fund :lol:
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Well, in his place, I fancy a new Strat - this one at present (although this is subject to change):
http://www.dv247.com/guitars/fender-american-vintage-59-stratocaster-electric-guitar-faded-sonic-blue--101298
I like that.... but I prefer this:
http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/fender-custom-shop-1960-relic-strat--matching-headstock---sonic-blue+++876 (http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/fender-custom-shop-1960-relic-strat--matching-headstock---sonic-blue+++876)
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I just don't get all this Strat love, I've never got on with them. Teles are way better if you like Fenders.
IMO, etc etc... :lol:
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I prefer Teles too. But with that Strat.... I'm a sucker for a matching headstock, what can I say?
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You can say sorry - apology accepted :lol:
I know what you mean about the matching headstock though, its cool - as far as Strats go.
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You should really be buying this instead of girly PRS' Dave...
http://www.dawsons.co.uk/gibson-collectors-choice-4-electric-guitar-sandy
If you don't like it, thats cool, however I effin love it - let her stay with me, think of it as a retirement fund :lol:
Sandy's nice, but I REALLY love CC#6. Check it out if you can, it is an absolute beauty.
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You should really be buying this instead of girly PRS' Dave...
http://www.dawsons.co.uk/gibson-collectors-choice-4-electric-guitar-sandy
If you don't like it, thats cool, however I effin love it - let her stay with me, think of it as a retirement fund :lol:
Sandy's nice, but I REALLY love CC#6. Check it out if you can, it is an absolute beauty.
I agree - love the worn-in look, they've really nailed it.
Ok, so I need to raise around £5500 for one of these CC Les Pauls, hmmm..... Dave, are they hiring at your place? - I'm willing to work my way up :lol:
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Yep, I know you'd take the ME mate.
You'd have to fight Ian Price for it though I think ;)
Fight to the death. I've got no money so perhaps we could run some sort of BKP betting syndicate and you could get a cut of the takings as payment for the guitar.
Seriously - the ME is the only humbucker equipped guitar that I have ever liked straight off bat (or neck). It was like sex (sort of)
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CC #6 is cool, but I'd have Sandy. That's a gorgeous faded LP.
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PQ - that Sonic Blue is simply porn for the more discerning guitar player (i.e. me) - And it would fit my matching headstock surf green and fiesta red strats and my matching headstock seafoam green Jaguar as well (actually aside from GAS desire, writing that sentence has confirmed to me that I do not need any more guitars - so well done :lol:)
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PQ - that Sonic Blue is simply porn for the more discerning guitar player (i.e. me) - And it would fit my matching headstock surf green and fiesta red strats and my matching headstock seafoam green Jaguar as well (actually aside from GAS desire, writing that sentence has confirmed to me that I do not need any more guitars - so well done :lol:)
Always glad to help, Elliot. :D
Although I think this thread is giving me chronic GAS just when I thought I was in remission (not for a Private Stock PRS, I hasten to add! :lol: )
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Seriously - the ME is the only humbucker equipped guitar that I have ever liked straight off bat (or neck).
Wow, I'd have saved a lot of money over the years if only I'd felt like that! :lol:
It is true that some instantly feel more "right" than others, I must admit. But they don't always end up as keepers, and there are others which sort of creep into your affections slowly (....like that girl with glasses who sat quietly in class and you never even really noticed her for years, then suddenly.....)
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It is true that some instantly feel more "right" than others, I must admit. But they don't always end up as keepers, and there are others which sort of creep into your affections slowly
This is very true. I was a bit disappointed with my PS Sig with trem when I first got it. The colour was much darker than the pics alluded to, I found the trem a bit sensitive and the final finishing wasn't as good as my PS Sig hardtail (pickup ring screws were a bit loose, pickup heights not ideal etc).
However, after going over it and giving it my usual full setup and check over tweaks it turned out OK. Not fantastic, but pretty good. Then I gigged it, dropped it, thrashed it, Tremol-No'd it and generally played the snot out of it and now it feels as comfy to me as my Modern Eagle does and the tone has opened really nicely - notes "bloom" really easily, and the guitar sings. If I don't use it for gigs or rehearsals I really miss it.
I'm still not fully sold on the quilt top or colour though :lol:
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It is true that some instantly feel more "right" than others, I must admit. But they don't always end up as keepers, and there are others which sort of creep into your affections slowly
This is very true. I was a bit disappointed with my PS Sig with trem when I first got it. The colour was much darker than the pics alluded to, I found the trem a bit sensitive and the final finishing wasn't as good as my PS Sig hardtail (pickup ring screws were a bit loose, pickup heights not ideal etc).
However, after going over it and giving it my usual full setup and check over tweaks it turned out OK. Not fantastic, but pretty good. Then I gigged it, dropped it, thrashed it, Tremol-No'd it and generally played the snot out of it and now it feels as comfy to me as my Modern Eagle does and the tone has opened really nicely - notes "bloom" really easily, and the guitar sings. If I don't use it for gigs or rehearsals I really miss it.
I'm still not fully sold on the quilt top or colour though :lol:
Get it refinished black Dave - all mine are black, it goes with anything.
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Wooo... there's some seriously f@cked up people in this thread... and I thought it was just Philly...
Come on guys, matching headstock on a strat?... NOOOOOO!!!
Get some help before it's too late!
:lol:
(I did start coming round to the idea a couple of weeks back... But reading these, frankly, scary posts about it proves that I'm much better now... thankyou :D)
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Wooo... there's some seriously f@cked up people in this thread... and I thought it was just Philly...
Come on guys, matching headstock on a strat?... NOOOOOO!!!
Get some help before it's too late!
:lol:
(I did start coming round to the idea a couple of weeks back... But reading these, frankly, scary posts about it proves that I'm much better now... thankyou :D)
You have to choose the colour carefully, but I do think strats with colour coded headstocks can (in the right circumstances) look quite nice.
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Get it refinished black Dave - all mine are black, it goes with anything.
That could work, maybe one day ;)
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As far as I am concerned, coloured headstocks are the right way for all the custom colours - surf greens, fiesta red, Daphne blue, burgundy mist, etc all look great. Obviously not for sunburst, white or that toffee colour (desert sand?) but black is ok.
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Wooo... there's some seriously f@cked up people in this thread... and I thought it was just Philly...
Come on guys, matching headstock on a strat?... NOOOOOO!!!
Get some help before it's too late!
I'm with you Andy, they''re a bunch of f**king deviants.. Matching headstocks are wrong. :x
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I'm with you Andy, they''re a bunch of f**king deviants.. Matching headstocks are wrong. :x
Do you think there's any way that we can help them? :lol:
I don't think gwEm, for example, is past saving yet:
You have to choose the colour carefully, but I do think strats with colour coded headstocks can (in the right circumstances) look "quite nice".
He doesn't sound completely convinced...
And, he is, of course, entirely correct... a carefully colour-coordinated headstock would probably look quite nice under Philly's bed, for example...
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And, he is, of course, entirely correct... a carefully colour-coordinated headstock would probably look quite nice under Philly's bed, for example...
Good God man, you're a genius! Solving two of the greatest unexplainable maladies of this board.
A neck exchange, owners of coloured headstocks can swap their neck for one of the Philly's collection.
Philly's happy and these unsightly abominations are keep out of sight for the foreseeable future!
PDT_003 PDT_012
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So people following "rock ideals" do play expensive guitars. Just not ones which look obviously expensive. Is that PRS' true crime?
No, this is PRS' true crime:
(http://www.chucklevins.com/productimages/guitars/prs/privatestockgallery/ps528/ps528-top.jpg)
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So people following "rock ideals" do play expensive guitars. Just not ones which look obviously expensive. Is that PRS' true crime?
No, this is PRS' true crime:
(http://www.chucklevins.com/productimages/guitars/prs/privatestockgallery/ps528/ps528-top.jpg)
Jesus Christ, it looks like the time things didn't end well after a skinful of cheap lager and a big bag of Wotsits...
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A singlecut quilt, with a trem, horrible colour and coloured inlays?
Blimey, what a mess.
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So people following "rock ideals" do play expensive guitars. Just not ones which look obviously expensive. Is that PRS' true crime?
No, this is PRS' true crime:
(http://www.chucklevins.com/productimages/guitars/prs/privatestockgallery/ps528/ps528-top.jpg)
That is the most disgusting guitar i have seen since i saw some busker on the street stick a load of chewed gum on his guitar! BLEH...
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A singlecut quilt, with a trem, horrible colour and coloured inlays?
Blimey, what a mess.
Signed by Paul Reed Smith himself too...
(http://www.chucklevins.com/productimages/guitars/prs/privatestockgallery/ps528/ps528-hdstockback.jpg)
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Coloured headstocks uniting in the dark against the prejudices of Andy and Afghan
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So people following "rock ideals" do play expensive guitars. Just not ones which look obviously expensive. Is that PRS' true crime?
No, this is PRS' true crime:
(http://www.chucklevins.com/productimages/guitars/prs/privatestockgallery/ps528/ps528-top.jpg)
That looks like they're turned a cat's arsehole inside-out and taken it as inspiration.
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Please make it stop, my eyes are burning.
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^
Nobody'll be wanting to buy my Singlecut Trem, then.... :?
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Congrats TF!
The 408s are looking really good. I'm a PRS fan myself, converted after playing an SE last year. I was totally sold, and then I played a US built one. Shouldn't have done that, now I'm gassing terribly. :D
That orange SC one though, is not on the summer hit list this year :)
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As far as I am concerned, coloured headstocks are the right way for all the custom colours - surf greens, fiesta red, Daphne blue, burgundy mist, etc all look great. Obviously not for sunburst, white or that toffee colour (desert sand?) but black is ok.
Agreed, with a few additional thoughts:
- White Strats look rock'n'roll with a "normal" headstock, sophisticated with a matching headstock. Both are good.
- Black Strats should only ever have maple fingerboards (but if they don't... then they should have matching headstocks)
- As a rule of thumb maple-board Strats should not have matching headstocks (but never say never)
- Sunburst Strats should never, under any circumstances, have matching headstocks.
- The ultimate matching headstock colour is.... Burgundy Mist.
Wooo... there's some seriously f@cked up people in this thread... and I thought it was just Philly...
Come on guys, matching headstock on a strat?... NOOOOOO!!!
Get some help before it's too late!
:lol:
Good God man, you're a genius! Solving two of the greatest unexplainable maladies of this board.
A neck exchange, owners of coloured headstocks can swap their neck for one of the Philly's collection.
Philly's happy and these unsightly abominations are keep out of sight for the foreseeable future!
It is a very good idea, but, just to be clear on this before we start....
I have no interest in coloured headstocks for their own sake. I would need the matching bodies. Even if they were just for keeping under my bed.
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- The ultimate matching headstock colour is.... Burgundy Mist.
not bad. but i think lake placid blue
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- The ultimate matching headstock colour is.... Burgundy Mist.
not bad. but i think lake placid blue
Yeah, that's not unreasonable, I guess. However....
Lake Placid Blue is one of those colours that I fully accept is a cool colour, but I've never personally liked it. Same would apply to Candy Apple Red.
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I don't really like matching headstocks either
also i always am a bit bemused when people act like a PRS is a doctor's or lawyer's guitar and then drool over a £5k (or more) CS Fender or Gibson. :lol:
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As far as I am concerned, coloured headstocks are the right way for all the custom colours - surf greens, fiesta red, Daphne blue, burgundy mist, etc all look great. Obviously not for sunburst, white or that toffee colour (desert sand?) but black is ok.
- As a rule of thumb maple-board Strats should not have matching headstocks (but never say never)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5-P9v3F8w
... :D
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Technically speaking, if a guitar has a natural, oiled body, neck and headstock, are they matching..?
Just so I'm clear, like.
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Technically speaking, if a guitar has a natural, oiled body, neck and headstock, are they matching..?
Just so I'm clear, like.
I'd assume - traditionally speaking - the body would be alder or ash, the neck would be maple (with or without a rosewood board).
So for a "matching headstock" in that case, the headstock would need to have a natural oiled alder or ash veneer.
IMO, of course. :wink:
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As far as I am concerned, coloured headstocks are the right way for all the custom colours - surf greens, fiesta red, Daphne blue, burgundy mist, etc all look great. Obviously not for sunburst, white or that toffee colour (desert sand?) but black is ok.
- As a rule of thumb maple-board Strats should not have matching headstocks (but never say never)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5-P9v3F8w
... :D
What the $%&#?
I couldn't watch that shite, was there a Strat in it at some point?
(Edit: I've just noticed the title of the song. :oops: )
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Dave: What is the difference between the 408 and the Signature Limited? To me they seem quite/very similar?
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No there wasn't - I watched hoping to see to holy grail matching headstock guitar - and it was just Jason Beider and Jackie Chan and that kid who is imitating the Karate Kid.
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Dave: What is the difference between the 408 and the Signature Limited? To me they seem quite/very similar?
Not that much mechanically, except the switching has a different layout (toggle vs blade).
The Sig Ltd has an Artist grade maple top, very dense mahogany for the neck and lightweight mahogany for the back. Upgraded woods all round, basically, plus a bound neck and headstock overlay.
Basically, the 408 is a regular production version of the limited production Sig Ltd.
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As far as I am concerned, coloured headstocks are the right way for all the custom colours - surf greens, fiesta red, Daphne blue, burgundy mist, etc all look great. Obviously not for sunburst, white or that toffee colour (desert sand?) but black is ok.
- As a rule of thumb maple-board Strats should not have matching headstocks (but never say never)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5-P9v3F8w
... :D
What the $%&#?
I couldn't watch that shitee, was there a Strat in it at some point?
(Edit: I've just noticed the title of the song. :oops: )
Haha :D just wanted to $%&# with you. I hate it when people say never say never because it makes me think of this song... I'm just helping to spread the hate :)
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Haha :D just wanted to $%&# with you. I hate it when people say never say never because it makes me think of this song... I'm just helping to spread the hate :)
Fair enough! :lol:
BTW, I realise I even contradicted my own "never say never" statement in my original post, by saying "never" in the very next line..... :roll:
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No there wasn't - I watched hoping to see to holy grail matching headstock guitar - and it was just Jason Beider and Jackie Chan and that kid who is imitating the Karate Kid.
Was this a reference to something that I should know of or do you really still not know his name properly?
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Are you getting pedantic over my mistyping? You must be a true fan :lol:
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Are you getting pedantic over my mistyping? You must be a true fan :lol:
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Are you getting pedantic over my mistyping? You must be a true fan :lol:
Haha, no :D
I was just under the impression that everyone in the world with access to the Internet and the outside world knew his name... Surely you couldn't have missed it. He's possibly the most hated singer/celbrity in the world!
Because of that I was just. Wondering whether you were referencing something from a movie, for example.
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:lol:
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Right, back on topic! :lol:
So I've had my two PRS guitars up for sale for a few weeks now, at what I think are good prices and all I've had is a couple of nibbles, and one stupidly crazy lowball. I thought things were supposed to be getting better for folks financially? Or maybe the used PRS market is just shockingly awful? :?
Rather than than let two great guitars go for a song, I've decided I'm going to keep them - I'd rather enjoy them myself for the amount they'd bring in. So after the PRS Collection V arrives in a month or two, that's it. I'll be done. I won't be able to afford another guitar for a LOOOONG time, as I'll be paying that off for eternity and a day.
As I said here: https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=28518.msg372497#msg372497
I'm looking forward to getting off the merry-go-round of buy-sell-lose money-buy-sell-lose money. I must be getting sensible in my old age...
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.....So after the PRS Collection V arrives in a month or two, that's it. I'll be done.
..... I must be getting sensible in my old age...
Ha, ha... yeah sure, pull the other one. I've been around this parish long enough to have heard that one before.
Next Philly Q will be breaking out the screwdrivers and tinning his soldering iron!
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(a) I thought things were supposed to be getting better for folks financially?
(b) Rather than than let two great guitars go for a song, I've decided I'm going to keep them - I'd rather enjoy them myself for the amount they'd bring in.
I'm looking forward to getting off the merry-go-round of buy-sell-lose money-buy-sell-lose money. I must be getting sensible in my old age...
(a) don't think so, isn't it a double-dip?
(b) But yeah I mean hang onto them if you're not getting enough, that's what i'd do, too. That being said, I do the "buy stuff and don't sell anything" thing and I'm not sure that leads to a better financial situation :lol:
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Right, back on topic! :lol:
So I've had my two PRS guitars up for sale for a few weeks now, at what I think are good prices and all I've had is a couple of nibbles, and one stupidly crazy lowball. I thought things were supposed to be getting better for folks financially? Or maybe the used PRS market is just shockingly awful? :?
Rather than than let two great guitars go for a song, I've decided I'm going to keep them - I'd rather enjoy them myself for the amount they'd bring in. So after the PRS Collection V arrives in a month or two, that's it. I'll be done. I won't be able to afford another guitar for a LOOOONG time, as I'll be paying that off for eternity and a day.
As I said here: https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=28518.msg372497#msg372497
I'm looking forward to getting off the merry-go-round of buy-sell-lose money-buy-sell-lose money. I must be getting sensible in my old age...
I was really surprised nobody bought that Chris Henderson single cut. I would have, if I didn't already have too many guitars.
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Stupidly crazy lowball? - I raised my offer to include a bag of dry roasted nuts.
You just can't please some people :lol:
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.....So after the PRS Collection V arrives in a month or two, that's it. I'll be done.
..... I must be getting sensible in my old age...
Ha, ha... yeah sure, pull the other one. I've been around this parish long enough to have heard that one before.
Next Philly Q will be breaking out the screwdrivers and tinning his soldering iron!
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Well....
..... I am taking some time off soon for the London Film Festival.
I might have time to consider thinking about planning to do something with my Warmoth/Fender/BKP parts mountain.....
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i was very, very tempted by the Henderson, and it was great price. but i've already spent my money recently!
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So I've had my two PRS guitars up for sale for a few weeks now, at what I think are good prices and all I've had is a couple of nibbles, and one stupidly crazy lowball. I thought things were supposed to be getting better for folks financially? Or maybe the used PRS market is just shockingly awful? :?
Rather than than let two great guitars go for a song, I've decided I'm going to keep them - I'd rather enjoy them myself for the amount they'd bring in. So after the PRS Collection V arrives in a month or two, that's it. I'll be done. I won't be able to afford another guitar for a LOOOONG time, as I'll be paying that off for eternity and a day.
Selling guitars is weird, though, you only need one or two interested buyers at the right time. You never know what might happen in a month or two.
I might've been interested in either of those guitars myself, but the timing wasn't right for me cashflow-wise.
As I said here: https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=28518.msg372497#msg372497
I'm looking forward to getting off the merry-go-round of buy-sell-lose money-buy-sell-lose money. I must be getting sensible in my old age...
I think it might be a little early to be making those kind of assertions. Let's let the dust settle a bit..... :P
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The price I paid for my second hand DGT in late May makes me think that things have not improved at all economically and that selling anything is pretty tough these days.
To put it another way, I paid quite a bit less for an utterly mint condition 2011 spec 10 top DGT than I did for a '95 McCarty with no fancy extras that I bough six months earlier. I'm hanging on to that McCarty for the time being even though it doesn't get played I'm thinking that unless I can trade it for something that would suit me better there's no way to sell it now without taking a big loss.
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The day Philly starts putting together stuff seems even more remote than the day Dave stops buying PRS guitars and gear...(and that day seems to, at least temporarily have come).
I meanwhile am waiting for Philly to start to sell stuff (similary unlikely), maybe I can grab some things if I can somehow afford it. Would love to make myself a Warmoth type build....and I am sure Philly has some pretty darn nice pieces collected. JUST GIVE THEM UP (TO ME) ALREADY!!
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I meanwhile am waiting for Philly to start to sell stuff (similary unlikely), maybe I can grab some things if I can somehow afford it. Would love to make myself a Warmoth type build....and I am sure Philly has some pretty darn nice pieces collected. JUST GIVE THEM UP (TO ME) ALREADY!!
I sell lots of stuff.... although I admit it's been a while.
In the next few weeks I WILL sell some stuff or complete a project (probably not both :| ).
Won't be "giving" anything though!!! :P
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The price I paid for my second hand DGT in late May makes me think that things have not improved at all economically and that selling anything is pretty tough these days.
+1 - Bought my second hand (maple top) DGT last year for a very good price - in excellent condition, love it.
Very tempted by Dave's cherry DGT Standard as I would like an all mahogany bodied guitar to replace my 1963 SG Standard (not selling it but it's a bit delicate!) - fair price for an "as new" guitar - but as I have a PRS Studio as well as the DGT I'm de-gassing :(
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This is it exactly, no-one has cash at the moment so it's tough for sellers. Even worse if you HAVE to sell, you're gonna get screwed :(
I've been thinking a hell of a lot about my gear recently, and my clearout for the super-PRS has done wonders psychologically. I'm completely and utterly done with buying gear.
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I'm completely and utterly done with buying gear.
It's like deja vu all over again... ;)
EDIT: In fact, that's going in my sig for posterity.
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:lol: Love it! :D
And I am ;)
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Attribute the quote:
I wouldn't part with my Pearly Gates or Modern Eagle. Truly incredible, and the reason I've sold so many others. Can't see me dropping any of the current stable though, they're all complete belters!
Squier JV Strat - my first electric, and the only thing I own with a trem!
Fender Custom Shop Esquire - Ian Price's old guitar
Fender Custom Shop Tele - the Red Sparkle monster
Fano JM6 - my P90 guitar, and one that I'm bonding with more and more
Gibson '65 SG - the old guy that I'm now using in YC/DC
Paul Richardson SCR - the modern oddball, and my main guitar for my non-DC bands
Gibson Pearly Gates Les Paul - I sacrificed my Ducati for this, and it was definitely the right choice
PRS Modern Eagle - my dream guitar, and something I never thought I'd buy
I'm so contented with the above, that I've stopped looking at guitar shop websites
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/TigerWoodsOct2011.jpg/300px-TigerWoodsOct2011.jpg)
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.81713.1329428063!/img/httpImage/gal-stupid-clinton-bill.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5087081710_f3909d0901.jpg)
"I'm completely and utterly done with buying gear."
Examples of honesty and fidelity we can believe in
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I know I know, I've said it before. Very, very different this time though - PRS 408 guitars are what I've been looking for since I began playing guitar. They have "my" tone in every way, and whenever I play something else I'm always thinking I'd rather have a 408 round my neck.
By the way, I still have the Strat, Modern Eagle and Tele - so 3/8 ain't bad :lol:
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Ah... but how many 408s are you going to buy? .... three already and another on the way. Are you breeding them? :lol:
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Nope, I'll have what I need/want with those 4.
And anyway, stop stalking me on VR :lol:
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:lol:
I'm sure you will enjoy all of them - they all look delicious! (although I still think the blue PS is the best)
(Perhaps a change of name to Quadruplefan would be appropriate)
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(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5087081710_f3909d0901.jpg)
"I'm completely and utterly done with buying gear."
Examples of honesty and fidelity we can believe in
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:lol:
I'd completely forgotten you had that longhair phase! Almost a hint of Phil X, disturbingly....
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Ha ha! It is a bit isn't it! Much more presentable now:
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/twinfan.jpg)
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Ha ha! It is a bit isn't it! Much more presentable now:
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/twinfan.jpg)
much better :)
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That's a very clean cut professional accountant/dentist-ish type haircut... What brand of guitars do you own again? :lol: :lol:
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Looks like you even got a free tee-shirt when you visited the barber shop.
:D
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That's a very clean cut professional accountant/dentist-ish type haircut... What brand of guitars do you own again? :lol: :lol:
:lol:
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That's a very clean cut professional accountant/dentist-ish type haircut... What brand of guitars do you own again? :lol: :lol:
Oooh, harsh! :lol:
I do sometimes think about growing my hair long again. Thought I'd be bald by now, but it hasn't happened yet (touch wood)
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I'm only joshing!! :D
I can't wait to see the damn thing in some "at home" pictures. When is it getting delivered?
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There is still room in Dave's life for a 20th anniversary Lion I reckon!
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If I played singlecuts, I'd be all over one of your Lions like Afghan Dave with a fat lass, Jon ;)
Dave - I haven't got a confirmed delivery date yet, it'll probably be early to mid November.
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Looks like you even got a free tee-shirt when you visited the barber shop.
:D
:lol:
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I totally win the battle of the double chins. :D)
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I can't wait to see the damn thing in some "at home" pictures. When is it getting delivered?
I've just been told it'll be here in a week or two.
Time to get the kidney on eBay...
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Time to get the kidney on eBay...
Make sure you don't tick "multiple items available"..... :?
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:lol: Indeed!
I was hoping it would be at least another month or so for cash flow reasons, but it'll be good to get it sooner :)
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Tick...tick...tick...
The PRS shipment should land this week...
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Tick...tick...tick...
The PRS shipment should land this week...
I'm getting excited!
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...and I just can't hide it...
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:lol:
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I've had the call.
Tomorrow.
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Woohoo!
Expecting some pics. Will it be resident in Basingstoke? Just wondering if you're going to have it with you at ALL times.
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It's being personally delivered to World Guitars by Jez, the Sales Director for Headline Music (UK PRS distributor) late this afternoon to ensure it's there for me tomorrow. That's pretty good customer service! :o
It'll be living at home Ian, but I'm sure it can make a trip south if you want to check it out....
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How about a US tour?
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Ha ha! 'Fraid not!
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It's being personally delivered to World Guitars by Jez, the Sales Director for Headline Music (UK PRS distributor) late this afternoon to ensure it's there for me tomorrow. That's pretty good customer service! :o
Well you have effectively paid for his holiday home in Florida....
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:lol: Indeed! Although, World Guitars have sold all 4 of their previous Collection electrics :o
It's going to be a long night and an even longer drive across to Gloucester in the morning...
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It'll be living at home Ian, but I'm sure it can make a trip south if you want to check it out....
On this occasion I can say with much confidence "I am not worthy" :D
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Drive carefully Dave.
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Drive carefully Dave.
And drive even more carefully back. Make sure your "Baby on Board" sticker is prominently displayed. :)
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This is the longest 'NGD' thread without there actually being a New guitar I've ever seen on a forum :lol:
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Home yet Dave?
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Yes ;)
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Changed your underwear yet? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5087081710_f3909d0901.jpg)
"I'm completely and utterly done with buying gear."
Examples of honesty and fidelity we can believe in
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I'd completely forgotten you had that longhair phase! Almost a hint of Phil X, disturbingly....
Put glasses and a headband on and i'd say it was more like Rob Chappers :D
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Yes ;)
Happy?
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Very - see NGD thread ;)
https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=28712.0
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Noticed that just after I posted here.
Nice axe dude.
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Ta ;)